Sorry sawx, but those all seem like such minor reasons to go back to condemning the Democratic Party.
Treat #NeverBernie people the same way you'd treat #BernieOrBusters.
The #NeverBernie folks are like 50-100 people who post mean things on Twitter. The Busters are hundreds of times larger. They've had several conventions where they've gotten together to trash the Democratic Party, including one just a week or so ago. They trashed the 2016 DNC. They absolutely swarm their targets on Twitter with hatefulness. The reason they became an issue in the primary was because they kept showing up to people's houses or disrupting candidate's events. We had an entire megathread of daily objectionable things that they did just in real life (not online). And of course, the data shows clearly that they threw the 2016 election to Trump. Meanwhile, all you can point to from the #NeverBernie crowd is like 3 or 4 isolated incidents that get replayed over and over and over and over and over and exaggerated about to ridiculous extremes (see: Lindy Li).
There was no "Whine, bitch and moan about #NeverBernie people" megathread because it's 50-100 people on Twitter who don't do anything. You continue to follow Bernie's lead in drawing a false equivalence between these two groups to excuse the absolutely deplorable behavior of the Busters, which continues to this day (see the Markey race).
Don't portray us as white-adjacent, especially if you're white.
"Bernie Bro" is essentially a subtler version of Joe Biden's "you ain't black" comments or Gloria Steinem's comments about female Bernie supporters just wanting sex.
Has anyone from the official Democratic Party leadership ever made these comments or are you still complaining about randos on Twitter and a few pundits like Joy Reid? I don't think the Democratic Party is doing this.
Stop marginalizing us. This doesn't mean we let divisive voices like Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib speak at the convention.
The problem is that elected progressives are a very small group, and non-elected progressives are by-and-large extremely divisive.
Who else would you have wanted to speak at the convention? On Rose Twitter the main person everyone was agitating for was Nina Turner, the most divisive person on the planet. Are you looking for Ro Khanna, no-name congressman from California? Mark Pocan, no-name from Wisconsin? Raul Grivalja actually did speak in 2016 when he endorsed Bernie, and this year he didn't endorse Bernie and didn't speak.
At the end of the day, the five names people associate with the progressive movement are Bernie, Warren, AOC, Omar, and Tlaib. Omar and Tlaib are absolutely awful people and an embarrassment to your movement. Bernie and Warren got huge, prominent speaking roles and were highlighted as leaders of the party. The AOC speech issue has been litigated endlessly on this forum and in the press but at the end of the day this is such a minor issue. AOC is hardly "marginalized" when she's the most well-known House member in the country and featured in every single Republican attack ad for her stupidity.
Biden put together a unity committee with Bernie where he let the Sunrise Movement ratf--kers and AOC help with his climate platform, among other progressive involvement. That's the opposite of marginalizing.
Stop the coronations. Obviously, you'll have some A-list candidates (Gideon and Bollier come to mind), and they've dodged some bullets (see: Laura Moser). Here, they've allowed a conservative to win in a blue state, or, in the case of Kentucky, protected an abjectly incompetent candidate from defeat. Charles Booker may not have been able to win, but with Amy McGrath's warchest, he might have been able to keep it close.
What are you talking about? McGrath wasn't coronated, she almost lost the damn primary.
Is a "coronation" just when a bunch of establishment Democrats all endorse the same politician in a primary? How is that any different from all the progressives endorsing the challenger in a primary? Endorsements are not a coronation. The Democratic Party infrastructure hasn't done anything to push primaries one way or another, it's just people like Pelosi making endorsements.
Come at the establishment with the same energy you come at us with. If Hakeem Jeffries defies Pelosi's ceasefire orders and attacks The Squad, publicly condemn him like you condemned AOC's Chief of Staff or Pocan for attacking the Problem Solvers Caucus.
They have to come at the progressives with that energy because meeting with y'all behind closed doors and being polite and conciliatory simply doesn't work. How many times has Pelosi met with AOC in private and tried to get her to cool her jets, only to have AOC come out a week later and trash Pelosi for not supporting some do-nothing political suicide bill? Do you really think the party hasn't privately tried to get Omar and Tlaib and Jayapal to dial down the awfulness? Hakeem Jeffries doesn't do things like that. If your lot were easier to work with instead of constantly trying to pick fights and tear down the party, we wouldn't have to fight fire with fire.
Ayanna Pressley has made herself easy to work with and avoided being a deplorable moron in public, and she's been welcomed into the party with open arms and gets touted as a future leader. The issue isn't "being a progressive." It's "being a horrible person."
We aren't really asking for much.
No you're really not, which is why it's bizarre that this huge post is supposed to be your list of reasons for going back to hating the Democrats.
