Tara Reade Biden allegation megathread

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We’re doomed

So the election is now going to be Tara Reade allegation Vs this



lets see which one the american people will care more about on election day.....

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Disgraceful, I wont donate to Biden

this guy thanks you for your support

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Morning Joe basically saying that Biden is a hypocrite for saying in 2018 that Blasey Ford should be listened to and given the benefit of the doubt (again, not adding that these two situations are not the same), and then they had some other woman on there saying that Biden should not only up his documents in the national archive for Tara Reade, but essentially open up his documents to ANY complains in EVERY archive that he has of documents.

Again, this is basically a trick, so that the media can get unfiltered access to every document that exists on Biden. Which - I'm all for transparency - but after the WikiLeaks and emails mess of 2016 - I do not trust the press to handle a situation like that credibly without it being a total witch hunt for information, just like the drip drip of emails in 2016 with "new info" coming out all the time.

what silly comparison

Tara Reade is no Blasey Ford and as of today Biden is making very clear that he is much open about have people look into him than Kavanaugh ever was


Kavanaugh Outright refused to support a FBI investigation that would help clear his name at his hearing. to this day I still have no idea why a man who claimed who was innocent kept refusing to have the FBI look into and clear his name


Biden is the other hand has just requested that the Secretary of the Senate ask the Archives to identify any record of the complaint she alleges she filed and make available to the press any such document. Biden have been also supported News organizations doing their own independent investigations into the matter.

unlike ford who had people Threatening her and telling her not to show tot testify
Biden has done nothing to stop Tara Reade from coming forward at all  

ever since 2019 when she first started  telling her story Biden has not tried to stop her form doing so at all

that is very different form how trump and even Bill Clinton handled it.

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Biden knocked it out of the park today
not with his word or even with denials that many wont believe anyway but with his actions

As I said yesterday had all Biden did was come out and give a nice speech he would be in big trouble  
Biden words mean nothing and he was wise to realize that he needs to have way more than that in order to show Tara Reade for the untrustworthy person that she really is

thankfully Biden made hands down one of the smartest moves of his political career and called Tara Reade bluff by requesting the Secretary of the Senate to ask the National Archives to identify & release to the press any complaints filed by Tara Reade


This Is a very big deal and the the key takeaway from this interview.

Because Tara specifically said that she filed a complaint in the Senate against Biden 1993
If that complaint is not Found Tara Reade and Her supporters will have some explaining to do


she Boxed herself into corner by claiming she filed a complaint in the Senate and If nothing is found
she has done Damage to not only herself but to many in the me too movement who blindly backed her in her first place. people may not buy Biden denials but they defiantly will buy that Tara has been caught in a huge lie if her complaint does not materialize a few days from now lol

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Also... so what's going to happen when/if there is no trace of the Reade document in the Senate archive?

I'm sure it won't be enough though, with the media saying well he didn't search the UOD records so...

Tara Reade will seen seen as liar to many for claiming to filed a complaint to the senate in 1993.
her own words hurt her by making that complaint in the first place

this whole "lets now go after UOD records now that I been proved to have lied the first time" is simply not going to cut it for her or the media hoping to keep this going.

If that compliant doesn't not exist for many that will be the end of this story because as far as they concerned if it was real it should have been there and on the Dem side if those Paper are not found they will simply declare victory simply move on.

that will dominant the News cycle and she will most likely be asked about it in her fox new interview
as I said before she made a huge mistake by focusing at first on that 1993 senate complaint and a pivot to now to caring about UOD records will not save her if the 1993 senate complain are not found.

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Does anyone have information or evidence that shows that this complaint would only be in the National Archives and not at the UoD? Or anything that contradicts that? I don’t want to just take people at their word even though I don’t believe the allegations

Tara Reade herself said that she went to the senate to file a complaint in 1993
realistically something like that should be in the National archives which is controlled ran by the senate. If tara did file a complaint back in 1993 as she claims it should be in those archives not in a UoD

To me that is this is biggest problem with her story
While its true The UoD is Biden property  

The actual compliant is hers and she should have been able to get a copy of that if it was real. I know Mitch would have gladly helped get one.
 
But The idea that she need to get into Biden UoD in order to find her own complaint that she gave to the Senate in 1993 is ridiculous and makes no sense at all lol

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I said it before and I will say it again   

The Moment the News drops about what they did or not find in those national archives
for many that will be the end of this story.

if they find nothing Tara read will be cemented as a liar in the minds on many democrat voters for claiming she filed a complaint to the first place.  her attempt to shift to suddenly caring about Biden files in the University of Delaware is simply not going to be enough to change a lot of people minds that she was not being truthful about filing that complaint in 1993.

if that complain existed is should be in those achieves and not in papers that was given to University of Delaware as a gift from Vice President Biden

It still makes no sense to me that she simply can not get of copy of a paper that said she gave to the senate and it makes even less sense that the only way she can get that complaint is by being going through all of Biden files in the University of Delaware. 

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yet had Tara filed the complained as she claimed than would should have to get it from there in the first place

why cant she simply request of copy of the complained that she said she gave to the senate. The GOP has the control and would be more than happy to help her get a copy.



The complaint is not Biden property nor does he own it

IT IS HER COMPLAINT THAT SHE GAVE TO THE SENTNE AND SHE SHOULD HAVE EXCESS TO IT

The idea that she cant get a copy of her own Property from the senate  is ridiculous and shows just how nonsensical her story is

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If these revelations get too bad, the convention haven't started ter, and Bullock already is running for Senate, and cant drop out, dump Biden and bring back the people's choice Bernie. That's what Dems wanted anyway before the Dems hijacked the nomination process.

This isnt the only accuser that accused Biden, he has a pattern of misbehavior

So let me get this straight


So Berine Bros and the politically correct left will let a ReElected trump kill Roe v wade simply because they let the Daily caller, fox news, and Tara convinced them that Biden Hurt woman lol

So future generation of woman will no longer have their reproductive rights simply because Bernie Bros went out of their way to help hurt the Dem nominee

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 I Do wonder if any of this will actually matter by the time we get to November 2020



I mean yeah this week we are all talking about it and Tara Reade going to do a few interviews

but after that on Friday we are about to get hit with a what will Most likely be A horrific jobs report and unless more comes out about this I feel like the deepening recession will start to dominate the media coverage as the economy starts looking worse.     

6 months is long time in politics and tara may have made a huge mistake by doing this now instead of waiting to at least October since that gives Biden more than enough time to recover and the public will simply get burned out on the story.  maybe something new can keep it going a little longer but ultimately I think most people will start to move on and focus on other things

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wow

Tara Reade Biden allegation are imploding right before our very eyes

I called it yesterday when I said that Biden was smart to call her buff and asked the national archives to look for her complaint.

Now she is changing her story again and is claiming that she never filed the complaint and even if she did it would not even Bring up harassment or assault

and see why she canceled that fox news interview because chris wallace was going to a rip her to pieces. Now even if she tries to do another interview People are going to ask her some very tough questions.


I Have to say that many in the left especially Chris hayes owes Biden and his Wife an apology for hyping this trash in the first place. they ought to be ashamed of themselves and lost all respect for Chris Hayes

he is a disgrace for almost ruining a good man name simply because he wanted to push this BS

 

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Reade just tweeted that the AP story is false, but she's literally quoted saying she didn't use the terms "Harassment" or "Assault".

well if its false Tara than go on fox news CNN or even NBC to correct the record
Im sure that they now have many questions that they would love to ask you........

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Alleged complaint filed with a congressional office

After the alleged assault, Reade said she filed a complaint on a clipboard in a Senate personnel office — she could not remember the name — about the alleged harassment, not the assault. She never heard back about it. No record of the report has been located.

The office that fielded harassment complaints at that time was called the Senate Office of Fair Employment Practices. It was replaced in 1995 with the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights. In 1993, the law said that harassment allegations would be heard by an independent board.

Reade suspects that Biden’s Senate office might have gotten alerted to a complaint and that it might be in Biden’s official Senate paper archive at the University of Delaware. Those records are sealed from the public “for two years after Biden retires from public life.”

what difference does that make at this point
when she has now said that if even they do find the complaint there it would not even bring up assault' or 'harassment.

if that is the case digging through University of Delaware files is now pointless and a waist of time

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Reade just tweeted that the AP story is false, but she's literally quoted saying she didn't use the terms "Harassment" or "Assault".

well it false Tara than go on fox news CNN or even NBC to correct the record
Im sure that they now have many questions that they would like you to clear up........

She chickened out because Chris Wallace was going to tear her story apart.

She probably wanted Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham

She says she bailed on the interview because she was receiving death threats which... actually is not hard to believe.

also watching Greenwald go into Reade's replies to argue with absolute nobodies is hilarious

Its actually very hard for me to believe
she just gave A TV interview with democracynow days ago




Tarra is a Bernie bro who been attacking and accusing Biden of stuff in the media since 2019

yet suddenly Im expected to believe that threats are keeping her away from fox news
yeah sorry I don't buy that at all

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All of y'all hoping Biden gets replaced will be in for a very rude awakening when the Democrats come up with their "compromise candidate".

Cant wait to see their reaction when a reelected trump "replaces" this woman thanks to them being selfish

  

say goodbye to Roe v Wade, Medicare for all, and everything else Bernie ever stood for now that The GOP will have Far Right Judges in control of the Supreme court for generations to come.

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Looks like we have an issue after watching the Moron Joe interview. This is going to resurface now in a big way.

Number 1 - The Same Standard

Regardless of assertions, clearly the Democrats nor Joe Biden are not treating this with the same standard. Even under Joe's guidelines expressed for the Kavanaugh situation, he has fallen short on this occasion. That is an issue in itself which can be brought up.

Number 2 - Biden wont release his personal Senate Papers

These are documents at the University of Delaware which may contain details of her complaint. He kept saying on Morning Joe he has no memory. Although not pressed very hard, he also did not refer to the other 7 women who have made complaints.

These two issues are not resolved, and will simmer and stew until they resurface again.

1. Regardless of assertions, clearly the Democrats nor Joe Biden are not treating this with the same standard. Even under Joe's guidelines expressed for the Kavanaugh situation, he has fallen short on this occasion. That is an issue in itself which can be brought up


Show me when Ford ever tweeted something like this about Kavanaugh



unlike Kavanaugh Biden supported people doing investigation into him and he has asked the senate to find any complaint the could have ever been made against him and release it to the public. Kavanaugh did not even want the FBI to investigate the claims made against him

2. These are documents at the University of Delaware which may contain details of her complaint. He kept saying on Morning Joe he has no memory. Although not pressed very hard, he also did not refer to the other 7 women who have made complaints.

This is an outright lie
Biden clearly and correctly pointed on that a compliant like that would not be at the University of Delaware And it is ridiculous that Tara Reade can not simply request a copy of the complaint she claimed she gave to the senate in 1993. Its BS that the only way for her to get that paper is By having Biden put out all of his other files that have nothing to do with any of this.

Its the "Hillary email trap" and thankfully Biden is smart enough not to fall for it


3. These two issues are not resolved, and will simmer and stew until they resurface again.

they can resurface all they want but by the end of the day most most Americans will care more about this on election day....

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Here is the Morning Joe video - best video i've seen so far of basically hitting EVERY angle of the story, including the Putin blogs and the past tweets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_MJ_sZSDs

Finally somebody in the Media that is actually focused on the facts and is not buying into this
"Always believe the woman without actually investigating their claims BS"

Mika is the perfect person to deliver this kind of message since After her tough interview with Biden No one will accuse her of giving him any kind of pass. she has gotten praise from both the left and the right for her interview so she is now shielded from people who want to accuse her of helping Biden. She can now take on Tara Reade without anybody ever questioning where she stands on Biden.

Hopefully this is sign of what is to come and the Rest of the media will also start to look at Tara Reade a lot more critically based on the things that she has actually said and done over the years    

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So... essentially all that is left that they could do I believe is that Tara would have to call for the release herself? Which I feel like she won't do, so

https://twitter.com/Isikoff/status/1257315337361481728

Where is the provision that Tara Reade can call for the release?

Also, I think Biden’s people knew the secretary wouldn’t have authority to search the record per their request. Their letter was for publicity.

I mean assuambly, if it's about confidentiality, then that would be confidentiality of the accuser, i.e. Tara Reade. If she waived that, I don't see why they couldn't release. And tbh, I don't think the Biden team knew this - I think they were banking on the Senate secretary looking for something and not coming up with anything, bc it appears it likely doesn't exist. This just extends the story a bit, which I doubt they would want.

Maybe, but it does keep attention off of his records in Delaware. Had the Secretary of the Senate said they couldn't find any complaints, the argument would have become that Biden's hiding them in his personal archives.

Bingo
you tell that they were going to claim that the records were in Delaware if the the Secretary of the Senate said he couldn't find anything.

now they will not be able to use that argument  and Biden is in a much stronger Position on this because he is not the One who is stopping those records from coming out. the GOP controls the senate so it will be very hard to claim they they are trying to protect Biden by refusing to release this.

Biden can now correctly say every time  he is asked about this that he is tried to get those files released and still wants them to released it but the GOP senate is blocking him that from happening.

At this point the Ball is now in Tara court
She is the probably the one who probably could execute an authorization so the complaint can be released.  if for any reason does not want to do that everybody will wonder What is Reade hiding by not authorizing the release? and even if she does that

the damage to her credibility will now be much greater if they do not find anything.

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Agreed - the faster this ends is when reports come out officially that "NO COMPLAINT EXISTS IN THE SENATE RECORDS". When the news covers that, that will be the end for many voters

The problem is that if Reade is the only one who can authorize the release of a hypothetical complaint, then she'll find some excuse to not authorize its release.  Something like "I'm getting too many death threats."  Then the Bernie+Trump people will get to spent the next 6 months (or 9 years) just making up things that are in this secret report.

that is not how I see this playing out at all
the Second Reade refuses to release the complaint

GAME OVER

It does not matter what her excuse is because At the point People will simply write her off and move on.

the reality is Tara is running out of time
I am already starting to get the sense that both people and the media are starting to get tired of this story. its very telling that despite the Big news about the Secretary of the Senate the story is not really trending on twitter at all nor is it the top story on many news websites like it was a few days ago

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https://mobile.twitter.com/JeanineSantucci/status/1257472709677723650

So, even if Reade herself requested a copy of the complaint, the Secretary of the Senate would be unable to release it.

Like I said before
It just feels like many people and media are starting to get tired of this story


Its very telling that despite all of this news that has come out today
this story has not been trending on twitter nor does it seem to be getting any kind of major coverage from many other news sites anymore

I think in retrospect Tara may have hurt herself and this story buy turning down that Big fox news Sunday interview

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I think it is becoming increasingly clear that Tara should have did that fox news interview if she wanted to keep people interested in this story. over the weekend this story was everywhere and everything was building up to Tara Reade Big interview on Sunday with fox news but than she would make what I now believe was her biggest mistake

She did that AP interview that had people raising questions about her credibility and she canceled her fox new interview on the same day. that was a “1-2 punch” that she has so far not recovered from and by Monday interest in the story rapidly declined.

Now even if Tara decides to do a big interview down the line I don't think many will even care by that point because by the end of the day she failed to strike when the iron was hot.

that fox news interview was her moment to take things to the next level and she let it slip by not choosing not to do it.
 

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www.thenation.com/article/politics/tara-reade-biden-allegations/tnamp/

(QOUTE)

A great deal has been made of her supposedly changing story. But most of these “changes” are rather a matter of her having enlarged her account over time, by finally coming forward to speak out about the alleged sexual assault, in addition to the sexual harassment she had previously attested to ... And adding to one’s story, when ready and willing to do so, does not amount to contradicting it. It is also hardly mysterious why it might take a victim time to break her silence: the pain, fear, and prospect of recrimination serve to keep many women quiet for years, decades, or even a lifetime.

We know, moreover, that sexual assault victims’ accounts often contain gaps or minor inconsistencies, and sometimes evolve over time, as they grapple with traumatic memories, and come to terms with what happened to them. This, as sexual assault advocates and trauma specialists have taught us, does not mean the victim is lying. It simply makes her a typical, human, and hence imperfect, victim.

Nor does having allegedly complained of Biden’s sexual harassment to the Senate personnel office, without using the term “sexual harassment” specifically, cast doubt on her story. It amounts to having described something de re but not de dicto—speaking of a thing without using the word for it.

and this is where I stopped reading....

Tara story changes went beyond Simpy hyping up and enlarging her account over the years,
she outright denied that Biden had ever harassed or assaulted her in the first place.

In April, 2019 she said this
"his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”

Had Ford said something like this about kavanaugh the GOP would have ripped her apart.
In sorry but some on the left are have really let political correctness blind them from being objective when comes to the facts about Tara Reade and her story

Its one thing to want to believe woman who have been abused by powerful man for decades but It is another to simply ignore the massive inconsistencies with Tara story and and let her potentially damage an innocent men reputation just because you are unwilling to confront the harsh reality that not every woman who claims to be assaulted is telling the truth  

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So Reade didn't want to do CNN and Fox News b/c of "security threats" but she was apparently willing to sit down with.... Megyn Kelly. Kelly is still rather hack-ish these days, so who knows what to expect.

https://twitter.com/megynkelly/status/1258438425881034752

Is this big?

I think she is making huge mistake by doing her first big interview with kelly

doing the interview with Chris Wallace would have given her more credibility and showed that she was really willing to take tough questions


doing it with Megan Kelly
someone who was famous for mainly for defending blackface and going soft on people like alex jones is simply not going to cut it. Kelly is to controversial for this interview to ever been seen as credible to a lot of people.

I expect Tara to turn on the water works and Kelly will not seriously challenge many changes to her she has made to her story over the years. if she is lucky maybe they get fox news to cover it but I other than that I don't think anybody else will care about this.

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https://twitter.com/RichMcHugh/status/1258483565328764934

I'm not going to put the video into my post, but Reade tells Megyn Kelly she wants Biden to drop out. [

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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1258512459125518337


This moment stood out to me and shows the big difference between her and Ford


Im sorry but her answers here is pure BS
Her passing a polygraph test that would be devastating to Biden yet she is refusing to take one because she says she is not a criminal lol


Ford never had any fear about taking a polygraph test and she 100 percent supported a Full FBI investigation into her claims. Ford was willing to do whatever it took to prove she was telling the truth.

Tara has now made it clear is not willing to take a polygraph and the media should be raising questions about what that is