For fun: 2012...

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2012?

Vice President Edwards enjoys an easy ride to the nomination, beating out his only contender, Dennis Kucinich.  

Since he is the greatest canidate the dems have ever put up to run, he wins on election night with 56% of the popular vote, and loses only Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, South/North Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Alaska.  Oh yes, his running mate is that young congressman dude from tennessee, he's cool.  

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I'm always surprised and saddened when I see that NJ has dropped below Georgia and North Carolina. I guess it is because I don't know anyone from those two Southern states. Idaho will gain an electoral vote (look at its rate of growth, isn't it nonsense!, and Rhode Island and West Virginia will lose 1 either by 2010 or 2020.

NJ didn't lose a house seat even when the 2 states bordering it both lost 2.  I don't see any drop in new people coming to the state.  I think NJ is more likely to gain a seat than lose one.  Alot of people still move here.  

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After a landslide victory in 2008 against Clinton/Breaux , President Rudy Giuliani enjoys 70-93% approval ratings for a good solid time.

I don't think Giuliani will even be *alive* in 2012.

Don't worry the whole senario that Reagan fan has sketched out is Republican partisan wish fulfillment...and i've said as much in some very long posts further down the thread...

If Kerry loses in November then It’ll be Rendell/ Ford in 2008 beating something like Frist/ Santorum …. Ahh, four years and an election away and I’m already trying to predict the ticket and the outcome…but look further down the thread and you’ll see my reasoning…  

mheh.  Santorum would doom any ticket.  While we're on the subject of wild predictions, mine for 2008 is Condoleeza Rice/Susan Collins over Hillary Clinton/Nancy Pelosi.

Err…hate to disagree…but I wouldn’t count on either…I for one would not vote for Hillary in a primary sure I might well vote for her in the general but not in the primary and personally I doubt she will run…where Kerry defeated, the Dems would probably retake congress in 06 and I am pretty sure that Ed Rendell would run in 08 and get the nomination with Harold Ford as his VP (Ford by then probably being a Senator)… I doubt that Bill Owens or Santorum (both of whom would do well amongst the GOP grassroots) would run and it would probably be between Bill Frist, George Pataki and some right-winger we’ve never heard of… out of those I’d say Frist wins…and gets a solidly conservative running mate…probably from the Midwest a younger version of Phil Crane perhaps…      

If Kerry loses, Edwards will get the nomination in 2008, no doubt.  Democrats will realize who they should've nominated 4 years ago.