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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2013, 11:45:13 PM »

I zoomed and starting clicking on some dots and stumbled on Janine Kriber's dot giving 1000$ to Projet Montréal.   

She is the colistier of Bergeron (she will replace him at city council if he is elected mayor AND councillor for Saint-Jacques or if he declines to sit as a councillor).
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2013, 06:11:20 PM »

Came back from voting in my city of Val-d'Or.
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2013, 08:26:52 PM »

Apparently Bergeron is behind by 15% in his own Ville-Marie seat. Teddy says the council results so far are 33 EDC, 8 VM, 9 CM, 5 other.

He is running against a CM incumbent.
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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2013, 08:35:07 PM »

Apparently Bergeron is behind by 15% in his own Ville-Marie seat. Teddy says the council results so far are 33 EDC, 8 VM, 9 CM, 5 other.

He is running against a CM incumbent.

Why didn't he run in his home district?

Most likely he wanted to help his party gain a seat, or just wanted to not seat and retire if he doesn't win the mayorship.
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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2013, 09:40:34 PM »

For some reason, Montreal City Council is so wierd right now.

DC 35, PM 13, CM 7, Indies 7, MJ 3 (in random places, the west of the downtown, the east of Pierrefonds-Roxboro and the borough mayorship of the Île-Bizard.)
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2013, 09:42:30 PM »

Can Coderre team up with the borough parties for a working majority if it comes to that?

I suppose, with some. I doubt they will behave as a block.
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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2013, 09:53:49 PM »

There doesn't seem strong loyalty to party in city politics so switches could happen or if some are ex-Union Montréal they might be willing to work with them Coderre.

I think Bergeron lives near UQAM, so he might have run in the district where he lives (or very close to it). 

He voted in the district where he ran, so I suppose he lives there.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2013, 10:07:06 PM »

Coderre still decline in council.

DC 30, PM 19, Indies 8, CM 5, MJ 3
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2013, 10:29:34 PM »

Should I be happy with the result in Gatineau?

Action Gatineau looks like they're losing their Aylmer seat, and in Lucerne. But, they've gained elsewhere.

I see Action Gatineau leading in 3 only. Strange they choose the leader but so few of the party and those incumbents lost.  The man in Aylmer was elected by 1 (on a different map) last time but he seems vocal because I have seen his name when I look at Le Droit online.

I don't know what is the reason for Pedneaud-Jobin and not the party. Could be style of leadership if the incumbent hides from media and debate and the other is very visible.

Or it might be like I noticed in Rouyn-Noranda in 2009. People don't care about the party label and vote as if there is none.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2013, 10:36:00 PM »

Montreal website has serious issues, it losts some boroughs.

EDIT: Came back.
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« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2013, 10:46:49 PM »

29 DC, 20 PM, 8 Indies, 5 CM and 3 MJ, at Montreal, now.
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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2013, 10:57:21 PM »

28 DC, 21 PM, 8 Indies, 5 CM and 3 MJ, at Montreal, now.
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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2013, 11:06:32 PM »

27 DC, 22 PM, 8 Indies, 5 CM and 3 MJ, at Montreal, now. Bergeron runningmate now leads in her seat.
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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2013, 11:15:10 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2013, 11:16:52 PM by MaxQue »

Is the drop in Coderre voting % from earlier because the first votes published were advanced voting. (older demographics, party organization getting out the vote early).

I think there are 7 councillors with local borough party, propably ex-Union people. With them Coderre has a majority. Don't know what is the relationship with them. I imagine if they didn't join  him they were not crazy about him.

I would assume you're right with the early voting and the drop in seats and %. Right with the 7 councillors being with Union before. The other is an indy in Loyola, Jeremy Searle. Wierd. Seems to be born in Bristol, UK and a repute for saying wierd things when he was a councillor. I wouldn't count on him for anything.

EDIT: Rogue might known better than me.
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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2013, 11:24:41 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2013, 11:26:54 PM by MaxQue »

For some reason, Joly party won the mayorship and the 3 borough seats on l'Île-Bizard (which give them a majority on the Île-Bizard--Ste-Geneviève borough council).

Edit: The new borough mayor is a former borough mayor, pretty much her only candidate with a political past.
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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2013, 11:33:45 PM »

Lorraine Pagé trails by 57 with 18 boxes still to count. A Joly candidate still in a race. A Coderre person is leading.

If that changes, Coderre is even further of a majority.
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« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2013, 11:46:59 PM »

Fotopoulos (Coderre) trailing by 28 votes only behind Projet candidate in Côte-des-Neiges district.

Joly seems to have received the most votes for mayor in CDN-NDG but was not elected.

For some reason, she decided to ran against the only Projet incumbant in the borough. Wrong choice from her.
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« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2013, 12:06:15 AM »

The hassidic woman for Outremont borough council is leading so I guess they did not listen to Coderre to vote for all his team's list.

I think than Bergeron won Outremont in the mayorship race, too.
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« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2013, 12:58:36 PM »

The city council is still not stable.
Now, it's 27 DC, 20 PM, 8 Indies, 6 CM, 4 MJ
Finally, Lorraine Pagé (Mélanie Joly, former union leader) won her seat (Sault-au-Récollet, Ahuutsic-Cartierville) with the last box by 8 votes, when she never lead at any point. This will go to a recount (as the 9 vote victory for Coderre candidate in Saint-Sulpice, Ahuntsic-Cartierville).
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« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2013, 03:55:05 PM »

Well, let's look each elected councillor of those paries, then, DL.

Mélanie Joly:
Normand Marinacci, borough mayor of Île-Bizard--Sainte-Geneviève. The party control the borough council, too. He is a pre-merger mayor of Île-Bizard and, as such, I suppose he is quite independant from her. He won't move.
Justine McIntyre, Bois-de-Liesse, Pierrefonds-Roxboro. She seems pretty non-descript (locally involved former professional pianist). No clue.
Lorraine Pagé, Sault-au-Récollet, Ahuntsic-Cartierville. A former union leader whose career ended under clouds (she was accused of shoplifting, but won her trial). She didn't bothered to run to retire, I suppose
Steve Shanahan, Peter-McGill, Ville-Marie. Another person with local involvement.

If one of those resign, it would be McIntyre or Shanahan, but I think she will wait a genuine vacancy.

Coalition Montréal, who's left:
Benoît Dorais, mayor of South-West
Réal Ménard, mayor of Mercier--Hochelaga-Maisonneuve, former Bloc MP
Russell Copeman, mayor of Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, former Liberal MNA
Domenico Moschella, Saint-Léonard-East (the Coderre candidate was withdrawn, and he beated Projet 51% to 49%)
Elsie Lefebvre, Villeray, former PQ MNA
Marvin Rotrand, Snowdon, Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, municipal councillor since 1982 for MCM and UM.

I find difficult to believe than all those people would join the same party. It's a random list of people with a previous political career and, because of that, an huge personal vote.
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« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2013, 01:34:01 PM »

This looks to reflect the results better: EC 27 PM 20 Indie 8 CM 6 VCJ 4...
Plus i believe two recounts will occur no? one EC leading (Saint-Sulpice) and the other VCJ leading (Sault-au-Recollet), both in Ahuntsic-Cartierville

More than that, I think than recounts may happen there (recounts happens if a candidate requests them).
Saint-Sulpice (Ahuntsic-Cartierville): Pierre Desrochers (perhaps the future president of the executive council, EC) won by 9 votes over Martin Bazinet (PM)
Sault-au-Récollet (Ahuntsic-Cartierville): Lorraine Pagé (former union leader, VCM) won by 8 votes over Nathalie Hotte (EC).
Côte-des-Neiges (Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce): Magda Popeanu (PM) won by 77 over Helen Fotopoulos (a important player of the Tremblay era, EC).
South-West mayorship: Benoît Dorais (CM) won by 115 votes over Jason Prince (PM).
Saint-Léonard-East (Saint-Léonard): Domenico Moschella (CM) won by 80 votes over Roberta Peressini (PM).
Saint-Jacques (Ville-Marie): Richard Bergeron (PM leader) won by 91 votes over Philippe Schnobb (former TV host, EC).
François-Perrault (Villeray--Saint-Michel--Parc-Extension): Sylvain Ouellet (PM) won by 8 votes over Claude Bricault (EC)
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« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2013, 02:57:17 PM »

Someone can correct my French, Bergeron won't run in 2017 and will call a leadership race in two years. If i read that right, he will take his seat in Saint-Jacques. 

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/montreal/201311/06/01-4707716-bergeron-quittera-la-politique-municipale-dici-deux-ans.php

The leadership will be in the next 12 to 24 months. He will take his seat and is upset at Coderre for asking a recount.  Also, the favorite to replace him are Luc Ferrandez, mayor of the Plateau and François Croteau, mayor of Rosemont. I would very much prefer Croteau, since Ferrandez is a controversial hard-liner which can't win Montréal mayorship.
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« Reply #72 on: November 11, 2013, 06:53:11 PM »

So, they have to do a boundary review every 4 years? Wow. Fun, but hard to look for old election maps.

They might. If the current map is still legal, they can keep it (as my city did this time).
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« Reply #73 on: November 12, 2013, 06:06:55 PM »

Because there is a recount in Saint-Jacques (Bergeron's district), Bergeron can't sit yet in the council and Émilie Thuillier, city councillor for Ahuntsic has been appointed interim opposition leader in Montréal. Another possible leadership contender?
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« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2013, 09:20:22 PM »

It's an interesting law, and one I think I can support, as long as there is a generous deviation, where few districts are altered each time. It seems that Gatineau has had significant differences each time.

I don't even know if there is a law in Ontario. Toronto has had their wards for over a decade. Ottawa has had our boundaries since 2006.

Cities have to publish the map in newspapers (or publish the old map and saying there is no change). People can object. If enough people object, Elections Quebec hold an hearing. They can do two things. They can keep the map or they can throw it out. If they throw it out, it's Elections Quebec which draw the map, not the city. Also, Elections Quebec draw the map if the city hasn't submitted a map in the legal delays (if the city is warded, some small cities and villages decided to not be warded). It's mandatory for cities over 20000, optionnal for other ones.

253 municipalities are using districts, on the roughly 1100 in Quebec. For last election, Election Quebec had to involve in 7 cities. http://www.dgeq.qc.ca/english/municipal/electoral-map/cre-decisions-2012-2013.php

Failure to adopt a map: Ange-Gardien (suburb east of Quebec City)

Hearings, map was kept: L'Ancienne-Lorette (demerged city enclaved into Quebec City), Lavaltrie (Montreal suburb in Lanaudière, on St. Lawrence shores) and Brownsburg-Chatham (in Argenteuil, near Lachute and Hawkesbury, ON).

Hearings, Elections Quebec drew a new map: Rouyn-Noranda (biggest city in Abitibi-Témiscamingue), Brossard (South Shore Montreal suburb, demerged from Longueuil) and Saint-Germain-de-Grantham (suburb of Drummondville)
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