Future Presidents

[JohnFKennedy]

My reckoning:

2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney defeats John Kerry/John Edwards
2008: John Edwards/Harold Ford maybe? defeats Jeb Bush/??
2012: John Edwards/Harold Ford defeats ??
2016: Owens/?? defeats ??

I am not sure really, 2016 is still too far off, so is 2012 really, but I definitely see a John Edwards Presidency in the future some day.

[JohnFKennedy]

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

It would surprise me.

The American System always goes like this really, 1896-1932 there was only 1 Democratic President just like between 1932 and 1968 there was only 1 Republican President.

Parties hold dominance for a while before it swings back the other way.

There are two cycles there, both of 36 years by whic h reckoning, 2004 should be the change over point, however, I think it will be 2008 as we have had one more Democrat term than we should have so far, my conclusion, 2008 is the change to Democratic Dominance with a two term Republican President at one point between then and 2044 with the rest Democrats.

I could be way off though .

[JohnFKennedy]

2024: GOP
2028: GOP

Those will be my two terms.

President at 36?  That's pretty ambitious.  Go for 2040.

So we have an official contest now.. the GOP nomination in 2024 or 2028 will be between Josh22 on NC and Richard M. Nixon from NJ.. cool.
Although, I'm sorry I won't be working with any of you.. my period as President of Mexico will end in 2024.

If those were the choices then NixonNow (Richard M. Nixon) would *have* to win.

[JohnFKennedy]

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

I think this will happen if they can't defeat Dumbya this year.

Well, I totally agree that a new party should be formed by the likes of:
Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Wes Clark, Jennifer Granholm etc - D
and
John McCain, Richard Lugar, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter, Colin Powell etc - R
But.. that would be subject for another thread.

I want to further discuss the 2028 GOP Election among Josh22 and Richard M. Nixon
For those who already know them well.. with which current politicians would you compare each of them?
By the way, I never introduced myself properly to this forum:
My real name is Cesar, I'm from Mexico (will be President of Mexico) and I'm studying right now at the LBJ School at UT-Austin.

Well I don't know much about Nixon or NixonNow as he used to be known. But, Josh22 doesn't believe in evolution or plate tectonics, takes the Bible as totally literal and says that the Roman Empire fell because they were too tolerant of gays so God smited them.

[JohnFKennedy]

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

I think this will happen if they can't defeat Dumbya this year.

Well, I totally agree that a new party should be formed by the likes of:
Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Wes Clark, Jennifer Granholm etc - D
and
John McCain, Richard Lugar, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter, Colin Powell etc - R
But.. that would be subject for another thread.

I want to further discuss the 2028 GOP Election among Josh22 and Richard M. Nixon
For those who already know them well.. with which current politicians would you compare each of them?
By the way, I never introduced myself properly to this forum:
My real name is Cesar, I'm from Mexico (will be President of Mexico) and I'm studying right now at the LBJ School at UT-Austin.

Hey I am Josh22, I am a Mod. Republican.  I would say I am like Alan Keys but anyway, I am closes to him...

You are a part of the Religious Right.

[JohnFKennedy]

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

I think this will happen if they can't defeat Dumbya this year.

Well, I totally agree that a new party should be formed by the likes of:
Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Wes Clark, Jennifer Granholm etc - D
and
John McCain, Richard Lugar, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter, Colin Powell etc - R
But.. that would be subject for another thread.

I want to further discuss the 2028 GOP Election among Josh22 and Richard M. Nixon
For those who already know them well.. with which current politicians would you compare each of them?
By the way, I never introduced myself properly to this forum:
My real name is Cesar, I'm from Mexico (will be President of Mexico) and I'm studying right now at the LBJ School at UT-Austin.

Hey I am Josh22, I am a Mod. Republican.  I would say I am like Alan Keys but anyway, I am closes to him...

You are a part of the Religious Right.

So is he

Who is "he"?

[JohnFKennedy]

Me lose HAHAHA that is funny.

But realistic.

[JohnFKennedy]

Wow. How old are you exactly?

He is 16.....Ain't the North Carolinan education system grand?

[JohnFKennedy]

Anyway, my prediction:

2004: GOP
2008: DEM
2012: DEM
2016: DEM
2020: DEM
2024: GOP
2028: GOP
2032: DEM
2036: DEM
2040: DEM
2044: GOP

This is purely a judgement from history, the Presidency seems to swing in 36 year cycles between the two parties while the other hold one two-term President in each (Wilson, Eisenhower and Clinton). 1896-1932 it was the Republicans who dominated with Wilson interjected in a two term Presidency. 1932-1968 it was the Democrats who dominated with Eisenhower interjected in a two term Presidency and from 1968-2008 (there is a reason for 40 years) will be the Republican dominance with Bill Clinton interjected as a two term President.

Now, the reason that the third cycle is 40 years is because of Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter disrupted the cycle so we have had one more Democratic term than history suggests we should, this is why this cycle lasts an extra 4 years.

Wilson was elected 16 years after the cycle began.
Eisenhower was elected 20 years after the cycle began.
Clinton was elected 24 years after the cycle began.
I have gone with 16 years after the cycle begins but I think it could be anywhere from then (2024) till 28 years after it begins (2036) which would mean finishing a cycle with the Republicans and sliding into the next cycle.

This is purely from a historical viewpoint so is probably quite unlikely however.