Merry Christmas

[JohnFKennedy]

Merry X-mas!  Though I am spared many of the excesses of the holiday season back home, I will happily report one adorable phenomenon - Thai bar girls dressed up in little christmas outfits.  I'm not sure if they're supposed to be elves, female santas, or santa's helpers, but they wear a tiny little red skirt, tiny red tube top, and a red santa hat with fake fur trim and flashing battery powered christmas lights attached! 

LOL!

Merry non-denominationally exclusive holiday seasons .

[JohnFKennedy]

The word "Christ" is substituted with an "X." Now you mean to tell me that people just type or write "Merry XMas" because it's shorter and they don't actually say it? What about that person who says "Merry XMas?" If you think that everyone that says that is just doing it because it's shorter than that showes a lack of common sense.

It is a frickin legitimate way of putting it, let us see what wikipedia says:

Xmas is an abbreviation for Christmas. It is derived from the word ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, transliterated as Christos, which is Greek for Christ. Greek is the language in which the whole New Testament was written.

Originally, Xmas was an abbreviation where the X represents the Greek letter chi, with a hard ch, which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek. However, because of the modern interpretations of the letter X, many people are unaware of this and assume that this abbreviation is meant to drop Christ from Christmas. The occasionally seen belief that the X represents the cross Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was T-shaped. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be. The use of X as an abbreviation for cross in modern parlance may have reinforced this assumption.

In ancient Christian art X and XR (Chi Ro--the first two letters in Greek of Christos) abbreviate Christ's name. In many manuscripts of the New Testament, X abbreviates Christos (Xristos). The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, fifty years before the first English colonists came to America and sixty years earlier than the completion of the King James Version of the Bible. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of Christian and Christianity.

[JohnFKennedy]

Happy arbitrary date assigned to represent the birth of Jesus in an attempt to morally cleanse a festival meant for casual sex and heavy drinking that just happened to fall on the day chosen for the birth of Jesus to be celeberated.

Err, Christmas.

LOL! Sol Invictus I assume you mean?

[JohnFKennedy]

Happy arbitrary date assigned to represent the birth of Jesus in an attempt to morally cleanse a festival meant for casual sex and heavy drinking that just happened to fall on the day chosen for the birth of Jesus to be celeberated.

Err, Christmas.

Technically this wasn't Jesus' real birthday, or so most sources tell me.

Happy holidays.

That was his point, I believed that Emperor Constantine of Rome assigned the date of Sol Invictus to be the birth date of Christ to make the religious change smooth.

[JohnFKennedy]

The word "Christ" is substituted with an "X." Now you mean to tell me that people just type or write "Merry XMas" because it's shorter and they don't actually say it? What about that person who says "Merry XMas?" If you think that everyone that says that is just doing it because it's shorter than that showes a lack of common sense.

It is a frickin legitimate way of putting it, let us see what wikipedia says:

Xmas is an abbreviation for Christmas. It is derived from the word ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, transliterated as Christos, which is Greek for Christ. Greek is the language in which the whole New Testament was written.

Originally, Xmas was an abbreviation where the X represents the Greek letter chi, with a hard ch, which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek. However, because of the modern interpretations of the letter X, many people are unaware of this and assume that this abbreviation is meant to drop Christ from Christmas. The occasionally seen belief that the X represents the cross Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was T-shaped. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be. The use of X as an abbreviation for cross in modern parlance may have reinforced this assumption.

In ancient Christian art X and XR (Chi Ro--the first two letters in Greek of Christos) abbreviate Christ's name. In many manuscripts of the New Testament, X abbreviates Christos (Xristos). The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, fifty years before the first English colonists came to America and sixty years earlier than the completion of the King James Version of the Bible. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of Christian and Christianity.

You're still totally missing my point and how amusing...eveyone here defending what you said is totally ignoring opedo's statement. Dislike for the fact that Christ's birthday being celebrated on this day is why Xmas was started. Your average person says it to be ignorant. Now what would happen if I mocked another's faith? I'd be just another intolerant conservative, right? That's exactly what others are doing when they say Xmas. That's why you don't want "Christmas" trees but "Holiday" trees. That's why a Mayor of some city (forget which one) had to apologize for saying "Christmas party." Certain people in this country want to do away with Christ in this season.

Now I ask that we keep the argument down here. This was meant to spread good feelings for the holidays. I took offense to the "Merry Xmas" because opedo, who suggests that Christians should be fed to lions and makes his hate for Christianity known, did it to mock this celebration. And what I love about each and every one of you is that you'd be the first to jump down a conservative's throat if they said anything of the sort about a different religion.

Ok, Opebo may have meant it in an anti-Christian way, but you kept referring to "people" saying xmas, not all of them are doing it to be anti-Christian.

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No it wasn't, did you read my post? Also, Statesrights pointed out that Xmas was used before Christmas.


Anyway, I will agree not to argue further.

[JohnFKennedy]

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Sorry JFK but if you think people use Xmas because of your historical information, you're wrong and so is States.

My point is, it has been around a long time so people invariably say it, some people may now say it as they don't wish to say Christ but I doubt that accounts for all of them.