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« on: August 17, 2022, 08:57:57 PM »

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What did LoTT do other than point out that a children's hospital put out a video that talked about the fact they perform hysterectomies?
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2022, 09:02:17 PM »

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What did LoTT do other than point out that a children's hospital put out a video that talked about the fact they perform hysterectomies?
Literally incited terrorist threats, try reading.

Try pointing out how they incited threats, because I don't see anything that substantiates that.
Is the idea that merely tweeting about what was in a video from Boston Children's constitutes incitement?   
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2022, 09:34:37 PM »

Facebook has permanently banned LibsOfTikTok over this. Hopefully the others follow suit.



What did LoTT do other than point out that a children's hospital put out a video that talked about the fact they perform hysterectomies?
Literally incited terrorist threats, try reading.

Try pointing out how they incited threats, because I don't see anything that substantiates that.
Is the idea that merely tweeting about what was in a video from Boston Children's constitutes incitement?   

"Hey you see those guys over there? They're doing a thing that we've been saying is tantamount to child molestation. NOW I'M NOT SAYING GO DO ANYTHING I am just providing the information that they are doing something that we've been saying is tantamount to child molestation. Again, not advocating for anything /wink/"

Use of "groomer" rhetoric from LoTT in other cases is absolutely fair to criticize, but this post wasn't doing anything of the sort.   
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2022, 10:06:34 PM »

Facebook has permanently banned LibsOfTikTok over this. Hopefully the others follow suit.



What did LoTT do other than point out that a children's hospital put out a video that talked about the fact they perform hysterectomies?
Literally incited terrorist threats, try reading.

Try pointing out how they incited threats, because I don't see anything that substantiates that.
Is the idea that merely tweeting about what was in a video from Boston Children's constitutes incitement?   
Listen Shua…don’t give me that.
I don’t buy your bull because i’m a tiktok creator as well for a sizeable audience (cringe I know), and I can tell you and everyone here that you are constantly thinking about how each and every piece of media put out will be received by your audience. I have a very young leaning and this impressionable audience, and I know full well if I post ANYTHING even slightly open to…certain interpretations, I would be influencing them and would bear responsibility in behavior caused by said video. Same goes for ANY creator with a large following, yeah nobody is going to say it because it’s not “genuine” to admit that, but everything that is posted is calculated.
This was not some accidental move…Chaya knew full well what she was doing, she knew her audience and what they were capable of, and she decided to strike the match anyways for views. Libsoftiktok has been in controversy before, and they downplayed January 6th, so this isn’t some “I didn’t think you would actually do that” moment.

And I find it extremely offensive honestly to see you defending this, because almost all content creators today think so hard about how their actions will impact their audience and how to bring media that gets attention…but doesn’t incite violence. You insult each and every one of them when you try and defend this irresponsible witch. And finally the lack of a strong apology shows she had no remorse. Even if she put a half-*sed statement out for goodwill (which I doubt she did), the fact her tweet against Facebook mentions ZERO wrongdoing on her part shows she has learned Jack s**t, as can be expected from a grifter like her. I celebrate this decision.

A children's hospital putting out a video promoting hysterectomies for gender dysphoric kids is inherently offensive to a lot of people in this country. Some people just aren't going to react well to that. I don't believe that means it's wrong to make people aware of it, because it's an important issue. This isn't about LoTT; she's posted things in the past that were possibly legitimately banworthy, but I don't believe this is.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2022, 10:50:31 PM »

Facebook has permanently banned LibsOfTikTok over this. Hopefully the others follow suit.



What did LoTT do other than point out that a children's hospital put out a video that talked about the fact they perform hysterectomies?
Literally incited terrorist threats, try reading.

Try pointing out how they incited threats, because I don't see anything that substantiates that.
Is the idea that merely tweeting about what was in a video from Boston Children's constitutes incitement?   
Listen Shua…don’t give me that.
I don’t buy your bull because i’m a tiktok creator as well for a sizeable audience (cringe I know), and I can tell you and everyone here that you are constantly thinking about how each and every piece of media put out will be received by your audience. I have a very young leaning and this impressionable audience, and I know full well if I post ANYTHING even slightly open to…certain interpretations, I would be influencing them and would bear responsibility in behavior caused by said video. Same goes for ANY creator with a large following, yeah nobody is going to say it because it’s not “genuine” to admit that, but everything that is posted is calculated.
This was not some accidental move…Chaya knew full well what she was doing, she knew her audience and what they were capable of, and she decided to strike the match anyways for views. Libsoftiktok has been in controversy before, and they downplayed January 6th, so this isn’t some “I didn’t think you would actually do that” moment.

And I find it extremely offensive honestly to see you defending this, because almost all content creators today think so hard about how their actions will impact their audience and how to bring media that gets attention…but doesn’t incite violence. You insult each and every one of them when you try and defend this irresponsible witch. And finally the lack of a strong apology shows she had no remorse. Even if she put a half-*sed statement out for goodwill (which I doubt she did), the fact her tweet against Facebook mentions ZERO wrongdoing on her part shows she has learned Jack s**t, as can be expected from a grifter like her. I celebrate this decision.

A children's hospital putting out a video promoting hysterectomies for gender dysphoric kids is inherently offensive to a lot of people in this country. Some people just aren't going to react well to that. I don't believe that means it's wrong to make people aware of it, because it's an important issue. This isn't about LoTT; she's posted things in the past that were possibly legitimately banworthy, but I don't believe this is.

Was the hospital really promoting hysterectomies for minors? That's pretty disturbing actually.

Violence against these doctors is disturbing as well obviously. But why are minors getting hysterectomies?

Their website says now that hysterectomies are only for those over 18, whereas before a few days ago it did not say that.  Now it says that vaginoplasties are for ages 18 and up, before it said 17 and up.  Recent WPATH draft guidelines has hysterectomies starting at 17.




https://thepostmillennial.com/revealed-leading-trans-health-group-recommends-lowering-ages-for-medical-gender-transition
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2022, 02:29:08 PM »

To take a leaf out of your damp, moldy, untouched book, do you have any proof that there were any procedures done on minors or is this simply another attempt at fearmongering by terrorists??

Procedures?  Yes. They have admitted they do mastectomies at 15, genital surgeries at 17.


Seems there is not direct proof about hysterectomies specifically. If they haven't allowed them on minors though it would have been a good idea to say so in the video they put out about the procedure, in order to prevent predictable misunderstandings.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2022, 02:50:57 PM »

To take a leaf out of your damp, moldy, untouched book, do you have any proof that there were any procedures done on minors or is this simply another attempt at fearmongering by terrorists??

Procedures?  Yes. They have admitted they do mastectomies at 15, genital surgeries at 17.

Seems there is not direct proof about hysterectomies specifically. If they haven't allowed them on minors though it would have been a good idea to say so in the video they put out about the procedure, in order to prevent predictable misunderstandings.


So you're saying they only perform procedures on mature teens, and the only scare tactic you could find was them doing top surgery on 15 year olds who presumably have immense dysphoria, in the same way that other 15 year-olds can have breast reduction surgery to improve their quality of life?

Literally all I did is answered your question.  Sorry if you didn't actually want me to.
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