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jeron
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« on: December 12, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.

Oh, but it is. In Edinburgh.
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jeron
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2019, 05:47:56 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.

Oh, but it is. In Edinburgh.

And Boris will tell them to F off when Sturegon asks for Indyref2. He knows the data. So Sturgeon will likely do something rash and then... well...

More likely a Catalonia situation develops rather than a new nation.

Probably, but that doesn’t mean there wont be a referendum. The union will be a shambles.
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jeron
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2019, 05:56:18 PM »

BBC Scotland: "The Exit Poll suggests the Lib Dems will lose all four of their seats in Scotland, including Orkney and Shetland, where they recently won a by-election. Labour will have one seat in Scotland and the Conservatives will have three."

Orkney and Shetland has been Liberal/Whig since 1826, with the exception of brief Conservative spells between 1835-37 and 1935-50.

It seems unlikely given the fact that the Lib dems recently won a majority in a by-election for the Scottish parliament there.
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jeron
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2019, 06:11:26 PM »


Oh I certainly hope so. Worst campaign I've ever seen.

BBC give her only a 5% Chance of keeping her seat.
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jeron
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 06:14:39 PM »


Grass is green and snow is white
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jeron
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2019, 06:40:36 PM »

11% swing to the Tories in Houghton and Sunderland South (still a 3,115 majority, but very worrying for other seats).

Brexit Party vote was 2 times the Labour majority there, might even have flipped otherwise. Brexit Party may save Labour a few seats by the looks of things.
I doubt that as most Brexit voters in Labour seats were Labour voters.

Exactly. It are Labour voters who are not prepared to vote Conservative. Without the Brexit party they probably would not have voted at all
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jeron
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2019, 08:32:54 PM »

SNP gain Rutherglen & Hamilton West from Labour

Tories down 5%. If this is the trend they will lose most seats in Scotland.
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jeron
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2019, 08:38:59 PM »

SNP gain Rutherglen & Hamilton West from Labour

Tories down 5%. If this is the trend they will lose most seats in Scotland.

That might have been down to tactical voting in this seat though.


Tactical voting? How? Do you suggest Tories are voting Labour to keep SNP out? That is nonsense
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jeron
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 09:01:00 PM »


Tories again down 5%. SNP up 11%.
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jeron
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2019, 11:08:31 AM »

The liberal democrats have really hurt Labour in this election.

Serious questions need to asked to why they carried on standing candidates

At the count in Kensington, the voters were horrified (pro-remain) that they have a die-hard leaver representing them because the liberal democrats refused to stand down.

In High Peak, the liberal democrat was sarcastically clapped for letting the Tory in. Even in Blyth Valley (first Tory gain) the Green party were put in the awkward position of trying to explain what the benefit is of splitting the left vote for the tory to win?  

Its totally pointless for the Green Party and Liberal democrats to say that the political system is rotten or broken. You know the rules before the election and if you have zero chance of running and its a swing district then questions need to be asked why are you running in the first place?

The Lib Dems offered Labour some kind of arrangement earlier this year. Labour declined. So, there only was only a Lib Dem/Plaid/Greens pact.
What you say about Labour, can just as easily be said the other way around. SNP lost Moray by 1.2%, Labour’s share of the vote was 5%. The Lib Dems lost Wimbledon by 1.2%, Labour got 23.7% there!
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