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« on: July 21, 2009, 09:14:17 PM »

How many African American Republicans are serving in Congress? None.

How many Hispanic/Latino Republicans are serving in Congress? Four, I think, and they're Cuban Americans and some have said that they don't really qualify as real Latinos. (Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Diaz-Balart brothers, and Mel Martinez).

How many Asian American Republicans are serving in Congress? One (Joseph Cao - and he'll be gone in 2010).

How many Native American Republicans are serving in Congress? None. 

How many women are Republicans are in Congress? 21 (out of 91) in both the House (17/74) and Senate (4/17).

How many Jewish Republicans in Congress are there? One (Eric Cantor).

How many LGBT Republicans in Congress are there? None.

Yeah I wouldn't exactly call the Republicans the party of the minorities but more so the party of old angry white men. Republicans don't necessarily hate minorities (aside from homosexuals); they just, well, how do I put this diplomatically, don't tolerate differences?

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

Asians are hurt the most by affirmative action, idiot. Try again.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 12:18:21 AM »

How many African American Republicans are serving in Congress? None.

How many Hispanic/Latino Republicans are serving in Congress? Four, I think, and they're Cuban Americans and some have said that they don't really qualify as real Latinos. (Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Diaz-Balart brothers, and Mel Martinez).

How many Asian American Republicans are serving in Congress? One (Joseph Cao - and he'll be gone in 2010).

How many Native American Republicans are serving in Congress? None. 

How many women are Republicans are in Congress? 21 (out of 91) in both the House (17/74) and Senate (4/17).

How many Jewish Republicans in Congress are there? One (Eric Cantor).

How many LGBT Republicans in Congress are there? None.

Yeah I wouldn't exactly call the Republicans the party of the minorities but more so the party of old angry white men. Republicans don't necessarily hate minorities (aside from homosexuals); they just, well, how do I put this diplomatically, don't tolerate differences?

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

Asians are hurt the most by affirmative action, idiot. Try again.
Err...what?

They're no fans of it, that much is obvious. But they would stand to be the people profitting most from a general application, much as in India not-too-badly-oppressed groups who somehow got on the Schedules are the ones who profit most. Which is entirely unsurprising if you think about it. They have a leg up on those below them already, so they're also best placed to take advantage of offered advantages. (Actually, I seem to recall a study pointing out how far more White women than Blacks of either race have been hired thanks to Affirmative Action policies. Mind you, that would be a study from the early 90s.)

Sorry for responding two years later...

But from what I have seen Asians usually aren't benefited by affirmative action because they usually only help "disadvantaged" groups. Hispanics and obviously Blacks fall under this category, but Asians usually don't (I would think at least a large part of the Vietnamese community might qualify). I don't know about the AA policies of different companies and what not, but at least the definition of the state of California seems to exclude Asians. After the UC system became color-blind in 1996, it was Asians who benefited the most, not whites. Asians are to this day highly overrepresented in the UC system, even at the undergraduate level (with most of the students being residents of California).
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 12:54:45 AM »

I doubt there's any Asian group that votes like Blacks.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 11:08:22 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2011, 04:39:30 PM by sbane »

No it's not because of the 60s calvinistlibertas. Most Asians weren't even in America back then.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 04:39:03 PM »

Didn't I say "most"?
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 11:43:45 AM »

Sorry, by "More Liberal than their demographic trends suggest" I mean "Don't vote Republican even though demographically they should".  They tend to vote like Moderates as an overall group--lean democrat in almost all races, but with a fairly strong Republican minority.

Though they are far more Liberal in California (at least in the bay area).  Where i am (West bay outside of San Fran) I think they actually vote more Democratic than the Hispanics do (who are also far more Liberal here than in the rest of the country).

That I agree with. It's a demographic that, as everyone has hinted, Republicans should do better in than they do.

Chris Christie, for instance, did very well in many Asian dominated towns in NJ, and won Middlesex County.

Not surprising that a candidate who doesn't give lip service to the religious right, and focuses almost exclusively on the fiscal issues of the state, might do well with Asian Indians. Meg Whitman also seemed to do better among Indians in the bay area than other Republican candidates. Of course the fact that these were state races also matters.

As for Asian Indian voting habits as a whole, it will vary according to their environment. Indians in the Bay Area certainly vote almost 7-2, if not more in favor of Democrats. In suburban Dallas and Houston, I bet it's much, much closer. Maybe 60-40 Dem at the most, and even that would be for a candidate like Obama. On the whole though, Indians are never going to feel comfortable voting for the Christian party. So don't be surprised if Indians basically vote like Jews. 

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 03:10:49 AM »

For most Indian groups there is likely a correaltion between time in America and GOP friendliness.

Perhaps. Shouldn't downplay how bad candidates like Bush (representing fundamentalist Christianity) play with Indians though. But maybe not in Fresno, I dunno.

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 11:17:36 AM »

For most Indian groups there is likely a correaltion between time in America and GOP friendliness.

Perhaps. Shouldn't downplay how bad candidates like Bush (representing fundamentalist Christianity) play with Indians though. But maybe not in Fresno, I dunno.



Thing is that the Central Valley's Indian community largely consists of Sikhs in agriculture that now have a century's standing in the Americas. Which is unique amongst Indian groups whose big wave started in the 1990s.

I'm not sure it has much to do with Christianity per se. For example, Bush was the fundamentalist Christian candidate in 2000 and he likely carried the Muslim South Asian vote easily (Gore running behind Bush and Nader is realistic for obvious reasons).Of course Gore could have ran more on Kosovo/Bosnia more and didn't [reasons why Gore basically fought Bush to a draw could write a book].

Bush likely did decently with the rest of the groups too (45% could be realistic). But that was a different time so... The rare moment when Muslim South Asians being more GOP than the rest.

Of course to achieve the 2004 result (massive Muslim swing and a lesser Hindu/Sikh swing) means that 9/11 fundamentally changed fundamentalist Christianity in a way that made it less amenable to other religious groups excluding Orthodox Jewry (who really had the mirror flip of Muslims). This is really a good topic of study on its own.

I am quite interested in how the Punjabis in the central valley vote. Hard to figure out though. They seem and act like a Republican group of course.

Interestingly enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Indians who actually are surrounded by fundamentalist Christians, whether it be in the Central Valley or Texas, are going to react against it less. Sitting here in the Bay Area or the NYC area, that culture is going to seem foreign and one that can seem as attacking non-Christians (and verbally many do).
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 01:47:30 AM »

Why would southern Indians be more D friendly? If they are then it's mostly because of the sorts of professions they are in. That is another factor to keep in mind. A guy who runs his own motel or owns his own farm might have a different view of government interfering with business than some guy who might make a comfortable salary but is just a faceless guy working for some big company.

 Theoretically you would think with the Republican party's turn towards anti-Islamic rhetoric that they would attract a lot of Gujarati and non-muslim Punjabi support. I don't know if it would work that well in practice though. I mean imagine some guy showing up in a Sikh turban to an anti-Islamic rally lol. Of course Gujaratis are also very business friendly, which should attract them to the GOP as well.

As for ballot issues, I definitely think Indians can get their conservativeness out of the way that way. Vote against all propositions that raise taxes and then vote straight D.

Also another thing we are missing is that a lot of Indians who came to America had their first exposure to America in an University setting. That is another factor to consider.

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2011, 04:13:58 PM »

There are no India/Pakistan tensions at all here. Not in the Bay Area at least. What sort of tensions are there in the UK? Sounds odd.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 08:39:57 AM »


Would you expect anything less from a white conservative Republican in Mississippi?

I just giving you a perspective through the eyes of Middle America...its time to take off the rose-colored glasses called the "East Coast"...

And, do we really have to break down the Asian demographic based on their nation of origin?  When discussing the black vote no one comparing is the voting behavior of Malians and the Gabonese.  Talk about a racial double-standard...

Because most African Americans have been living in the Americas for about 300-400 years. Most Asian immigrants come here very recently, with the oldest communities coming here in the mid 1800s.

Not to mention how you wonderful southerners destroyed African American families thus losing their roots, including the knowledge of where exactly they came from.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 12:49:17 AM »


Would you expect anything less from a white conservative Republican in Mississippi?

I just giving you a perspective through the eyes of Middle America...its time to take off the rose-colored glasses called the "East Coast"...

And, do we really have to break down the Asian demographic based on their nation of origin?  When discussing the black vote no one comparing is the voting behavior of Malians and the Gabonese.  Talk about a racial double-standard...

Because most African Americans have been living in the Americas for about 300-400 years. Most Asian immigrants come here very recently, with the oldest communities coming here in the mid 1800s.

Not to mention how you wonderful southerners destroyed African American families thus losing their roots, including the knowledge of where exactly they came from.

The early slave trade heavily involved people from Massachusetts and Rhode Island, hardly Southerners. They also started the triangular trade system.

True. Southerners are hardly the only people to blame, with lots of Europeans being involved in the trade as well.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 01:34:23 AM »


Goes without saying I thought. Tongue
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