If the Adam and Eve story is literal, wouldn't the world be horribly inbred?

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I'll take the Adam and Eve story over the evolution story any day.

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     I don't think I've ever seen anyone with such a libertarian PM score profess to Creationist views before.

Evolution doesn't add up to me. How can a single cell organism over billions of years grow into a human? If it did happen then why did the humans stop evolving? Where is the missing link? Where did the single cell organism come from? Where did atoms come from?

This is like the ultimate facepalm post.

Haha I literally facepalmed. The stupidity of the post is infinite.

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Question for those who doubt evolution:

How do explain the need to get a different flu shot each year? Or the design of new drugs once bacteria and viruses grow resistant to the old ones?

To answer that question, the human body adapts to things, just like every living thing. That is how we are made.

The issue has nothing to do with the human body. In fact if anything that would further provide evidence for evolution as one would in theory at some point quit getting sick as they would in time have developed an immunity to all common sicknesses.

Like I said, it adapts to it.

No, the body doesn't adapt to ALLOW more viruses and bacteria the chance to attack it easier.

Based on your argument once someone caught flu once, they could never catch it again for the rest of their life.

No the viruses adapt to the drugs we use, just like our body adapts to the drugs we use.

Our bodies can "adapt" to bacteria and viruses by forming antibodies but bacteria and especially viruses aren't complex enough to do any of that. Rather they have a very small generation time( in the case of bacterium) letting them adapt by evolution rapidly. Also some bacteria have ways of spreading genes beyond dividing and that is through the use of plasmids. These plasmids aren't a part of the bacteria's DNA and rather are extra sequences of DNA that usually contain genes, such as those that code for antibiotic resistance, which are helpful to the bacteria. These are spread from bacteria to bacteria. This is the closest a bacteria can get to "adapting" although they either have the plasmid or they don't. If they don't have the plasmid they die. Whereas we have to be attacked first before we can adapt and form antibodies. So the recent increase in antibiotic resistant bacteria is due to the evolutionary advantage possessed by these bacteria. This change happens over many generations with drug resistant bacteria having an advantage and today this is manifesting itself as a problem in hospitals all over the world. In these small organisms with small generation times, we can see evolution in action.

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Question for those who doubt evolution:

How do explain the need to get a different flu shot each year? Or the design of new drugs once bacteria and viruses grow resistant to the old ones?

a mutated virus not a case of vertical evolution

Yes but that mutated virus obviously has an advantage over its "cousins" which means it can infect more people and thus spread faster. Eventually over time the virus itself will change from generation to generation and this my friend is called evolution. I really don't understand why Christians are so threatened by it. Maybe evolution is just a mechanism used by god to enact change on this planet?

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I'll take the Adam and Eve story over the evolution story any day.

Congratulations, you're an idiot. Seriously, what makes the Adam and Eve story credible? The part where god rips out Adam's rib and grows Eve from it?

So people who don't agree with you are idiots? Way to be an open minded liberal! That really pisses me off, the liberals say they are so open minded but as soon as someone believe different then they do then they call them idiots and crap like that. On the other hand alot of true conservatives don't give a crap what you believe or how you live and are called bigots.

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Let us pretend someone believes the world is 6000 years old or they think the world is flat. I am going to consider them an idiot. Your belief is along the exact same lines. Do you understand?

No I don't, because as far as I know, we weren't around back then so we really don't know what happen. You can call me an idiot for thinking that the bible is true all you want, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you a bigot.

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I'm not calling you an idiot based on your faith. Rather, I'm calling you an idiot because of your ignorance and your rejection of evidence. We have fossil records that date back millions of years. We have empirical evidence of bacteria evolving. They become immune to previous drugs and we have to alter our drugs to kill them. That is evolution at work. Evolution is of course not a perfect theory by any stretch of the imagination but when you claim "I'll take the Adam and Eve story over the evolution story any day" you are rejecting science. Do you believe in gravity? Do you think our planet is 6000 years old? I don't mind if you have faith in god but when you reject basic science like this, I consider you an idiot. Period. Quite frankly, I don't give a damn if you consider me a bigot or an elitist or whatever. I'm just being brutally honest. Do you understand?

Until they find the missing link that they have been looking for I'm not going to believe in evolution they are teaching. Do I think the Earth is 6,000 years old? No, but I do believe that the written document of man is only 6,000 years old(when man started to write down history). Do I believe that there were humans that lived over 6,000 years ago, most likely. What I believe is God made everything a long time ago, when? I don't know, but God made Adam and Eve and from there to now I believe that humans changed into what we are today.

You say you aren't going to believe the evolution "they" are teaching, yet you admit that you have never really learned about evolution. I don' t think serious scientists are out there looking for the "missing link". We didn't evolve from monkeys; rather we evolved from a common ancestor that branched into monkeys, humans, chimps etc. And we have genetic evidence for this of course. 99% of our genome matches with that of the Chimpanzee. There's your "missing link" right there.

Again I don't understand the reason for being so defensive. Evolution basically goes against the creation stories of every religion out there so please stop with the whole Scientists trying to destroy Christianity bullsh**t. And as I have said before I don't see anything contradictory with being a man of faith and "believing" in evolution. Of course you don't "believe" in scientific facts, you learn them and know them.

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I'll take the Adam and Eve story over the evolution story any day.

Congratulations, you're an idiot. Seriously, what makes the Adam and Eve story credible? The part where god rips out Adam's rib and grows Eve from it?

So people who don't agree with you are idiots? Way to be an open minded liberal! That really pisses me off, the liberals say they are so open minded but as soon as someone believe different then they do then they call them idiots and crap like that. On the other hand alot of true conservatives don't give a crap what you believe or how you live and are called bigots.

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Let us pretend someone believes the world is 6000 years old or they think the world is flat. I am going to consider them an idiot. Your belief is along the exact same lines. Do you understand?

I believe that man is 6,000 years old, not necessarily the world.  Does that make me an idiot.  If it does, then I am PROUD to be an idiot.

Dude we have proof of humans, not some hominoid ancestor, but Homo sapiens roaming around the planet before 6,000 years ago. Why be so anti-science? You really think there is some conspiracy out there trying to destroy Christianity? You don't think evolution goes against the creation stories of most other religions? Of course Christians do tend to be very dogmatic, which would explain the fervor against evolution.