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« on: September 23, 2020, 08:11:39 AM »

Striking in Arizona is the result in Maricopa County, home to more than half the state’s likely
voters. In Maricopa’s cities, Biden leads by 61-35 percent; in the county but outside of its cities it’s a dead even 47-47 percent. It’s also a near-even race in and around Tucson, which Clinton
won in 2016. Those compare with 65 percent for Trump in the rest of the state.

Both those numbers should raise huge red flags. As it happens, AZ is a state where weighting by county is viable and makes sense.

I wonder what they define as "cities" in Maricopa County. Mesa or Chandler are cities but would usually be considered suburbs of Phoenix, even though Mesa has a population of more than 500,000.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 08:16:26 AM »

Iowa is tied but Trump is ahead in AZ? I just don't buy that. We shall see if future polls confirm these results or not.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 06:46:15 PM »

Iowa is tied but Trump is ahead in AZ? I just don't buy that. We shall see if future polls confirm these results or not.

When has polling ever understated Republican strength in IA and Democratic strength in AZ?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_romney_vs_obama-1922.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/az/arizona_romney_vs_obama-1757.html

In any case, my point here was that these polls just don't fit with the overall picture we are getting from other state and national polling. That doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. We will see if we see other polls show a tighter race. IIRC, ABC/Washington Post was the first to detect a tightening towards Trump in 2016 and basically nailed the final margin.
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