Poll re 2020 Ohio CD Map

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I like the way Jimrtex broke down the different areas in Ohio based on population change. I am constructing a map currently using those boundaries. I will post it when I am finished.

The last map you posted is acceptable, Torie, but of course I can make it better.

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I like the way Jimrtex broke down the different areas in Ohio based on population change. I am constructing a map currently using those boundaries. I will post it when I am finished.

The last map you posted is acceptable, Torie, but of course I can make it better.

Good luck to you too. Are you using the 2020 census projection numbers?  I see what Benj is trying to do, to make OH-10 more Dem. I don't think it will work, but maybe if he goes from the NW corner all the way down to the Butler County line.  If he manages it, it will look like a dildo.   Or he could make OH-09 go south rather than east I guess, chopping up the Lake CD some more, with OH-08 appending the lake. But then that would chop up those Catholics he is concerned about. We shall see.

I am using the boundaries Jimrtex created in his first map using the 2020 projections. It's still a work in progress.

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Not satisfied yet, and going for more eh?  Greedy!

Speaking of greedy, have you taken a look at your CD-10?

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Not satisfied yet, and going for more eh?  Greedy!

Speaking of greedy, have you taken a look at your CD-10?

And where is your map? Again this is an object lesson in just letting the black box do it. Everyone's motives are questioned, no matter how one tries in good faith, and the fact is, it is hard with some discretion, to see alternatives that screw your side. That is why I have yet to see a map by someone claiming to be non partisan, that benefits the other team. Well Muon2 is on his own trip to be fair. The rest of us are susceptible to being hacks. Melding his ideas with common sense, and what will sell in the public square as the end product, seems to me to have potential. That is why I am focusing on erosity - and it's like porn - you know it when you see it.

How is your CD-10 not erose?

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This is what I drew, and it is based off the map Jimrtex drew in the other thread. The 1st district which is composed of rural and small towns is the key. This allows you to draw compact districts around metro areas. Communities of interest can be manipulated for partisan interests, but keeping metro areas together is just common sense and I don't see how it is controversial. In my map you have a district that takes in the western suburbs of Cleveland, and another district that takes in the eastern suburbs and the southern suburbs (or northern suburbs of Akron, I bet many commute to both cities in those areas). Then you have a Akron and Canton based district. The Youngstown district takes in a couple of Appalachian counties along the Ohio river, which isn't ideal, but close enough to that area that I think it works. And lastly, it ends up in a very nice and tidy district taking in Toledo and other industrial type small cities along lake Erie. I think this is the best possible map for northern Ohio.

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My Cleveland district is 40.6% VAP black. Isn't it the same in your map?

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This is what I drew, and it is based off the map Jimrtex drew in the other thread. The 1st district which is composed of rural and small towns is the key. This allows you to draw compact districts around metro areas. Communities of interest can be manipulated for partisan interests, but keeping metro areas together is just common sense and I don't see how it is controversial. In my map you have a district that takes in the western suburbs of Cleveland, and another district that takes in the eastern suburbs and the southern suburbs (or northern suburbs of Akron, I bet many commute to both cities in those areas). Then you have a Akron and Canton based district. The Youngstown district takes in a couple of Appalachian counties along the Ohio river, which isn't ideal, but close enough to that area that I think it works. And lastly, it ends up in a very nice and tidy district taking in Toledo and other industrial type small cities along lake Erie. I think this is the best possible map for northern Ohio.

I would have a rule against double spanning, where two or more districts span a county line.  This tends to make the district boundaries at least somewhat parallel to county lines, rather than stringing extended areas together.

So I would reject two districts crossing the Summit-Portage line.  The Akron district would go a bit further north, and the salmon district a bit more of Portage County.  I can't tell sure whether the yellow district extends into Lake County, but I would not permit that either.

A possible consideration is that Ohio shale oil area is centered in Carroll County, but since it has little population, oil field service companies are setting up in places like Canton.

Yeah, it's probably a good idea to get the purple district out of Portage.

The yellow district does go into lake, but only to pick up a fairly black precinct. I think that district could do without it.