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Question: Which of the following plays the biggest role in why Democrats are seriously considering the reconciliation option?
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They generally want to see a health care reform bill passed, even if that means massive defeats in November (R)
 
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They generally want to see a health care reform bill passed, even if that means massive defeats in November (D)
 
#3
They generally want to see a health care reform bill passed, even if that means massive defeats in November (I/O)
 
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They feel that they will be able to use the passage of a health care reform bill as a successful campaign tool in November (R)
 
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They feel that they will be able to use the passage of a health care reform bill as a successful campaign tool in November (D)
 
#6
They feel that they will be able to use the passage of a health care reform bill as a successful campaign tool in November (I/O)
 
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Sbane
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« on: March 02, 2010, 01:46:21 PM »
« edited: March 02, 2010, 01:55:27 PM by sbane »

There are a few lessons you can learn from our great experiment here in Massachusetts:
(1) Way more poor people will find coverage thanks to subsidies.
(2) If you can afford health care now at an obnoxious rate, you will not qualify for anything but the right to keep paying that rate.
(3) Wait times for doctors are up.
(4) Doctors do not want to accept state-paid patients and refuse them whenever possible.
(5) Middle-class premiums will continue to rise unabated.
(6) Poors still use the ER as their front line source of medical treatment.
(7) There's a marked proliferation of high-deductible "junk" plans that exist as the cheapest way to avoid a state-levied fine.
(Cool Whatever they're telling you the cost to taxpayers is, they're way off.

What do you think is the most efficient way to extend healthcare to all?

Edit: Which is of course assuming you would want that end result. And I don't see how anyone, unless they are a millionaire, would oppose healthcare for all. I am from an upper middle class background but I know perfectly well I am one "restructuring" or "productivity increase" away from using the ER as my major source of health care. And the rest of you upper middle class folks and those who have good jobs with healthcare benefits are in the same boat with me. Hell, if your job provides healthcare benefits, you are more likely to be laid off.
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 01:23:37 PM »

It's a control issue. Once the Democrat Party implements their Socialist National Healthcare plan, the Republicans, or anyone for that matter will never be able to remove the horrid thing. The NH plan will drive all private insurance out of business, because then everybody will be on the government plan, which is exactly what the White House wants. President Obama is either lying or incredibly naive and stupid to think that nobody is going to lose their current coverage.

The Democrats probably expect to suffer a setback or two once they implement it, but they'll be able to come back because it's not like the Republicans will be able to remove National Healthcare. The Democrats will dominate because only they are able to run their Socialist HC System well. The Republicans will be reduced to the "Lesser" Center-Left party, having to worship Obamacare to get elected.

Does Quality of Care matter to the Democrats? Nope. Do the burdens the Tax Payers will have to endure for Obamacare matter to the White House? Nope. It's all about power.

The company that hires you is much more likely to take away your healthcare than the government. But go ahead and stay a deluded idiot. I don't care.
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