Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Ilhan Apologist]

What do we think about an Elizabeth Warren/Deb Haaland 2020 ticket?

I'd love that, but I don't see her picking a woman as her running mate.

[Ilhan Apologist]

I can't see Warren picking a woman as her running mate. As insensitive as it may sound, i think having two women on the ticket may just be too much for certain people.

If he was still in office, I'd say Russ Feingold would be a pretty good choice.

I mean, if Russ Feingold were in office right now he'd be a frontrunner for the presidency. Like, if he'd won Wisconsin at the same time as Trump, he'd be the obvious choice for progressives.

[Ilhan Apologist]

How would a Warren/Walz ticket fare?

[Ilhan Apologist]

Castro has a painful lack of charisma, and she needs someone with more (I assume you mean Julian). Even though she has plenty of charisma herself, the media likes to paint her as boring and "professorial" and she'd need someone to offset that image.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Warren/Castro is the best choice for Dems. Both are putting together great progressive policies and having Castro on the ticket will help boost Latino turnout.

Castro has been dropping fire policy proposals. He would be an amazing surrogate in TX, AZ, and for the burgeoning Latino electorate in GA. I hope she picks him!

O’Rourke gives nearly  all the same benefits Castro does, but is actually charismatic and a good campaigner.

I mean, he's white. But charisma is arguably more important than being a certain race.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Warren/Castro is the best choice for Dems. Both are putting together great progressive policies and having Castro on the ticket will help boost Latino turnout.

Castro has been dropping fire policy proposals. He would be an amazing surrogate in TX, AZ, and for the burgeoning Latino electorate in GA. I hope she picks him!

O’Rourke gives nearly  all the same benefits Castro does, but is actually charismatic and a good campaigner.

I mean, he's white. But charisma is arguably more important than being a certain race.

I take this back after tonight. Beto would not be a good running mate for Warren, and Castro would actually be really good.

[Ilhan Apologist]

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1145047905411248131

What does this even mean?

Twitter should ban or suspend people who imply that Harris isn't Black

[Ilhan Apologist]

Adding to the busing discussion, they were able to find Warren's first law review article from 1975 which addressed this issue...

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147543871804661760?s=20
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147545469918355457?s=20

Wow. And she was a blatant conservative at the time, no?

[Ilhan Apologist]

Adding to the busing discussion, they were able to find Warren's first law review article from 1975 which addressed this issue...

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147543871804661760?s=20
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147545469918355457?s=20

Wow. And she was a blatant conservative at the time, no?

She described herself as conservative but not politically engaged. Also this was a time when social conservatism and other types of conservatism (e.g., fiscal, judicial) were not so tightly connected.

I mean, you'd think that a staunch fiscal conservative would also oppose busing even then.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Adding to the busing discussion, they were able to find Warren's first law review article from 1975 which addressed this issue...

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147543871804661760?s=20
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147545469918355457?s=20

Wow. And she was a blatant conservative at the time, no?

She described herself as conservative but not politically engaged. Also this was a time when social conservatism and other types of conservatism (e.g., fiscal, judicial) were not so tightly connected.

I mean, you'd think that a staunch fiscal conservative would also oppose busing even then.

Fair point. I'll modify that to say that social conservatism (e.g. attitudes about race) and other strains of conservatism were probably not as cross-pressured as they are today. I.e., one could identify as a conservative but still prioritize racial sympathy over other positions on, e.g., government intervention? I'm spitballing here.

editing to add: this is part of why I think the whole "Warren was a Republican until the 90s" attack to be incredibly stupid. There are a couple of other reasons but this is an obvious one.

I mean, she was VERY fiscally conservative and anti-consumer. I have no reason to doubt her political transformation being genuine; I just wish she would own up to her past and admit to the error of her ways. Otherwise it'll come back to bite her if she tries to attack Harris or Biden on their pasts.

[Ilhan Apologist]

My point is that if she calls out Biden for his record, he could just say, "well at least I was a Democrat." She needs to preempt that by owning up to it.

[Ilhan Apologist]

My point is that if she calls out Biden for his record, he could just say, "well at least I was a Democrat." She needs to preempt that by owning up to it.

Dawg she was a private citizen then. She reevaluated and changed course. There's nothing really to apologize for.

Past party affiliation is a stupid rabbit hole to go down considering both the current president and Vice President are former Democrats, Trump having been a very liberal Democrat only a couple of years before he ran for president

I mean, she was writing conservative law review articles back then. Look, this doesn't disqualify her at all in my eyes; I'm just saying she needs to prepare for that as an attack.

[Ilhan Apologist]

She never voted for Reagan.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/elizabeth-warren-opens-up-about-her-choices-in-every-presidential-election-since-1972/

Almost everyone in 1972 voted for Nixon.

I'm more referring to her old law review articles, some of which were quite conservative and anti-consumer.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Warren rakes in $19 million despite no fundraisers

  This shows the strength of her grassroots support, even with eschewing big money donors she's up there with Biden and Pete.

Hell yes!

[Ilhan Apologist]

Can we make this about Elizabeth Warren's campaign again and take the pissing and moaning about college to general discussion?

Thank you! I'm overwhelmed with responses from something that I didn't think warranted it.

You said that better-educated people are generally more left-wing. I wanted to clarify that there's no evidence to back that up. One's degree of political involvement does increase the more education they have, but they don't sort disproportionately towards the Democratic Party.

But...data literally shows that college-educated voters tend to be more Democratic...

[Ilhan Apologist]

Would a Warren/Sanders ticket actually work? I was dismissive of that idea at first (since they're both old progressive senators from New England), but they seem to have distinct bases of support.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Honestly, her use of "Latinx" in the first debate was much more ridiculous than this.

How and why does that bother you? LOL.

Because no words in Spanish end in two consonants, and the word is grammatical nonsense in Spanish.

This is true. Projecting sexism onto -o/-a endings is the whitest thing ever and wildly misunderstands the Spanish language. Even if you really wanted to get rid of language genders, one could always use the already existent -e ending. -x is linguistically absurd, blatantly disregards Hispanic worldviews, and has a distinctly Anglo orgin.

Fair, but I know plenty of Hispanic people who refer to themselves as Latinx

[Ilhan Apologist]

The fact that this thread keeps getting sidetracked is a reflection of what's wrong with Warren's campaign.