2020 Protests megathread

[It’s so Joever]

So it turns out social distancing and #flattenthecurve all goes to sh**t cause a cop murdered someone

Yep, looks like liberal Twitter has once again proven to be a disappointment to America.
At least some of the protestors are wearing masks, but that probably can only do so much in a large crowd of thousands where everyone is screaming at the top of their lungs.

What’s even worse is that just before this all began, Minneapolis was already seeing a huge rise in cases. This surely won’t help the situation.

[It’s so Joever]

Ive been saying since we locked down in April that I wasn’t scared of the virus, but rather the civil unrest that would be the end result.

Well well well....

This was all so predictable.

Why don’t other countries which enacted even stricter lockdowns have so much civil unrest?

[It’s so Joever]

Look at all those people putting each other in danger. And then they go around infecting others weeks after these protests. Shameful.

Wait I thought Covid was a hoax meant to suppress the people?

[It’s so Joever]

You can add Iowa

I had the feed from Des Moine up just as I posted that and could tell that it was about to boil over.

A few other updates:

It's amazing how quickly this spiraled out of control. As I've said before, we are witnessing the decline of the United States in real time.

That started years ago.
This is just an acceleration of our downfall/change.

[It’s so Joever]

I think this is the peak night of the unrest. It'll probably be downhill from here for the next 3-4 days.

God I hope you are right. This is getting insane.

[It’s so Joever]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yve9DhT8Nt4

It almost reminds me of the Boston Massacre.
The protestors are throwing rocks/acting violent first, but the police will be labeled as the bad guys in the end.

Of course, the police aren’t doing themselves any favors by giving Twitter fodder to use against them (through their own reckless behavior as pointed out by others on this thread)

[It’s so Joever]

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).

When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

[It’s so Joever]

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).

When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.

...No, the police have the right to protect themselves. You do realize these police are humans with families as well, right?
If they are having projectiles thrown at them, they have every right and an obligation to use force. Deescalation only works when the other side isn’t already acting violent.

And you are calling me a Republican?
Why not call Fuzzy a Democrat or John Dule a socialist while you are at it?

[It’s so Joever]

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).

When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.

...No, the police have the right to protect themselves. You do realize these police are humans with families as well, right?
If they are having projectiles thrown at them, they have every right and an obligation to use force. Deescalation only works when the other side isn’t already acting violent.

Thanks for admitting that people have a right to self-defense against excessive behavior! I'm certainly not somebody who believes in the concept of deescalation, so we're definitely in agreement there

Great, now will you admit that protestors throwing rocks at police officers is excessive behavior which gives the police the right to use force? Or were you just trying to score some cheap points?
And deescalation does work, but only when one side isn’t already literally throwing rocks at the police.

At any rate, I have no interest in continuing an argument with someone who's a C-tier poster at best.

Why, are you worried I will replace your role on Atlas?

[It’s so Joever]

I don’t feel like going through 18 pages of posts....has someone actually come up with a rationalization as to why one group of protesters has to follow certain guidelines during a pandemic and another group does not?

No, both groups should be punished severely.
You are correct in pointing out the hypocrisy currently happening among some segments of the left.
Unfortunately, viruses don’t just stop once the media stops reporting on it.

[It’s so Joever]

If you drive into other human beings, attack with weapons (or bow and arrows lmao), destroy property or incite violence and you are arrested for it and as long as you did not take a human life I have a great plea bargain deal.

As I understand people are angry at the heat of the moment. (Of course people are angry about George Floyds murder and of course other people are angry about seeing communities rioting resulting in violent actions by people opposed to violence haha..)

All charges can be dropped if you are willing to be a guinea pig for a coronavirus test vaccine and if you were already infected by the coronavirus you would give plasma.

Now you are speaking my language.

[It’s so Joever]

Give it two days.

People will be sick of the media coverage, and the Police/National Guard will have better control.

These situations don't achieve the outcome people desire if they loot and burn.

If this quote ages as well as your US coronavirus takes, these riots will last for about seventy years.

[It’s so Joever]

IIRC most of the attacks for no "reason" are because of curfew, still illegitimate of course because curfews are bullsh**t tactics used to suppress dissent but just giving the reason.

If only the police used tear gas to enforce lockdowns back in March and April....

[It’s so Joever]

Trump's speech was great. No mercy for rioters and looters. Trump's bringing me (and many other pubs) home with these remarks.

Yep. Today is the day Trump stepped up to the plate. After completely losing me for the last three months, I am cautiously teetering back toward him again. He still seems a bit weak, but I would be extremely confident if he put someone dependable like Tom Cotton in charge of the response since he is a bit too lazy.

I'm really hyped at our selection for 2024. Hawley (economic nationalism), Cotton (social ruthlessness), DeSantis (great leadership), and many more. The future is bright for the GOP, but sadly, only if Trump loses. However, i'm now contemplating favoring him in the race.

Trump's speech was great. No mercy for rioters and looters. Trump's bringing me (and many other pubs) home with these remarks.

Yep. Today is the day Trump stepped up to the plate. After completely losing me for the last three months, I am cautiously teetering back toward him again. He still seems a bit weak, but I would be extremely confident if he put someone dependable like Tom Cotton in charge of the response since he is a bit too lazy.

So, he threatens to violate posse comitatus to use military force against American citizens, and that's what brings you back to the fold?

You mean thugs, rioters, and looters? Yeah, that's exactly what's bringing me into the fold.

If it weren’t for Covid-19 and Trump’s climate change denialism, I would probably be considering supporting Trump.

[It’s so Joever]

Just a slice of how this all looks to the world:

To be fair, the media really needs to stop putting their employees in dangerous situations and get them to stand farther back (several city blocks) for their own safety.

This is what journalists do, and it is the line of work they chose.
 That’s why I see journalists for major news outlets as major FFs for risking their lives to give the full story.

[It’s so Joever]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1267709439467020288

I support the protesters and all, but does anyone else find this to be actual insanity after they have been barking at anyone who’s came within 2 meters of another person for the last 3 months?

Conversely, haven't the other "they" been saying the curve has been sufficiently flat and then we should be reopening Society weeks or months ago? Congratulations, folks like that have gotten their wish.

The curve has NOT flattened, and these rioters are acting incredibly insane right now.
Anyone going out into large groups is complicit in the 20k cases per day and 1k deaths
Per day. What happened to Mr Floyd was horrendous, and police reform is necessary, but that doesn’t mean furthering the spread of a pandemic which disproportionately kills minorities.

[It’s so Joever]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1268567645131022338

Good.
The statues themselves were erected far after the Civil War in most places (The Lee Statue in Richmond was introduced 35 years after the war). All confederate soldier statues should be removed from public squares and kept in museums. There are plenty of amazing Southerners who deserve statues who didn’t fight for the Confederacy (and literal slavery)
I get the historical importance, but that is what museums are for.

Northam made the right call here.

[It’s so Joever]

Using tear gas to subdue protesters may help spread the coronavirus, experts warn

Spraying people with tear gas causes them to cough, shout and scream — and that will send infectious droplets from an infected person to others, said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a professor of medicine and an infectious diseases specialist at UC San Francisco.

Tear gas may cause people who are wearing masks to take them off, and prompt them to rub their eyes, nose and mouth, Chin-Hong said. Even worse, respiratory irritants inflame the inside of the nose and mouth and the lining of lung tissues, making the body more susceptible to infection, he said.

Chin-Hong was one of more than 1,000 people — among them infectious disease and public health experts — who have signed a petition asking local and state governments to stop using tear gas, smoke and other respiratory irritants that increase the risk for coronavirus transmission by inducing coughing. The petition was inspired by a group from the University of Washington, and Chin-Hong said he was contacted to edit the letter.

So does screaming “Black Lives Matter!!!” with about a few hundred/thousands other people in one crowded gathering.

[It’s so Joever]

My lord Buffalo:

https://twitter.com/WBFO/status/1268712530358292484?s=20

The LAPD reportedly shot a wheelchair-bound homeless man who was not even protesting in the face

These are not human beings we're dealing with.

We need a final solution to the police problem in this country.

...Please tell us what this horribly worded “final solution” of yours would entail?

[It’s so Joever]

My lord Buffalo:

https://twitter.com/WBFO/status/1268712530358292484?s=20

The LAPD reportedly shot a wheelchair-bound homeless man who was not even protesting in the face

These are not human beings we're dealing with.

We need a final solution to the police problem in this country.

...Please tell us what this horribly worded “final solution” of yours would entail?

Reform.

...That’s very vague.
The wording of your post is what alarmed me, do you care to expand a bit on this reform?

[It’s so Joever]

What the Republicans want the whole country to look like:
https://twitter.com/itsianrussell/status/1268962943145848833

Ideally, it would have looked like this back in March/April.

[It’s so Joever]

It’s outrageous, the commune must be crushed now. They are lawless and explicitly anti-American. It’s time to siege them in.
And these protestors are complicit in spreading Covid-19 and killing the American people.

[It’s so Joever]

250 years ago:


1 week ago:

Funny enough, just like with the Boston Massacre, “protestors” across the country were throwing rocks at the police preemptively and damaging property nearby. Of course, also like with the Boston Massacre, a lot of people choose to ignore that fact.

[It’s so Joever]

It’s outrageous, the commune must be crushed now. They are lawless and explicitly anti-American. It’s time to siege them in.
And these protestors are complicit in spreading Covid-19 and killing the American people.

You realize you just described the Trump White House, right?

Yes.
I can hate CHAZ and Trump at the same time.

[It’s so Joever]

Wasn’t the military used in 1992 by HW

But it is bad when other countries do it because...