2020 Census and Redistricting Thread: Florida

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I'm very skeptical that this map would recieve a VRA overturn for the same reasons that lfrmonj mentioned. The current FL-05 links two disconnected communities across hundreds of miles to secure a majority Black-seat -- almost a dead ringer for the old NC-12. Especially with the new map (seemingly?) having relatively clean borders I struggle to see the Supreme Court or the 11th Circuit overturning the map. In fact, combining the votes of Thomas (voted both in Cromartie and Harris to overturn NC-12) and Alito and Roberts (who voted to uphold NC-12 in Harris, but only the basis of stare decisis), I'm more inclined to think that there is a majority on the Supreme Court to get rid of FL-05 than to keep it.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ron-desantis-targets-black-held-congressional-seats-party-rcna19771

Dear lord he's not appealing to the laser eyes. He is a laser eye.

So based

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Lot of people seem to be avoiding the Occam's Razor explanation here, which is that DeSantis wants as many Republican seats as possible.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Lot of people seem to be avoiding the Occam's Razor explanation here, which is that DeSantis wants as many Republican seats as possible.

If DeSantis wants as many Republican seats as possible, I'll provide him with a foolproof plan, free of charge.

1. Make your intentions clear to the legislature months in advance.
2. Go public with your disagreements only as a last resort; avoid needless antagonization.
3. Focus on Tampa, Miami, and Orlando to the exclusion of North Florida, which is far more legally and parochially fraught and is a fraction as important as those metro areas.
4. Be willing to concede to lawmakers who want ideal seats as long as you're getting something in return.

I think he literally did the opposite of this at every step.

1/2/4: People make mistakes

3. I disagree and there's a very clear case that FL-05 is not just legal to get rid of, but illegal.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Lot of people seem to be avoiding the Occam's Razor explanation here, which is that DeSantis wants as many Republican seats as possible.

If DeSantis wants as many Republican seats as possible, I'll provide him with a foolproof plan, free of charge.

1. Make your intentions clear to the legislature months in advance.
2. Go public with your disagreements only as a last resort; avoid needless antagonization.
3. Focus on Tampa, Miami, and Orlando to the exclusion of North Florida, which is far more legally and parochially fraught and is a fraction as important as those metro areas.
4. Be willing to concede to lawmakers who want ideal seats as long as you're getting something in return.

I think he literally did the opposite of this at every step.

1/2/4: People make mistakes

3. I disagree and there's a very clear case that FL-05 is not just legal to get rid of, but illegal.

I think most people here can agree that with the that the current FL-05 has a decent chance of being struck under the 14th. I struggle to see how a West Duval seat even if not required would be illegal.

I don't think it would be. But the OP said to "the exclusion of North Florida" and I'm answering as to why I believe some focus on North Florida can be understood, even if I concur that I'd probably draw a Jax area Dem seat if I was DeSantis.

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https://twitter.com/apantazi/status/1516470957472464909

By the way DeSantis hired the same guy who drew the TX gerrymander.

At least the FL map is a lot cleaner lol.

Ngl that’s kinda suprising as the 2 maps are drawn in very different styles, though FL’s concessions may have been to lower the legal risk.

A good service-provider should know how to meet the demands of his customer. That's no different here.

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Thoughts on this map?





https://davesredistricting.org/join/4530af88-20c7-441c-a993-3089f3d1fc57