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« on: February 19, 2018, 02:35:10 PM »
« edited: February 19, 2018, 02:45:41 PM by Great Again: American Horror Story »

Hey, if you take only the Republican scholars into account, Donald Trump ranks 40th... beating Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison, and James Buchanan. Better than nothing. Tongue  All three political camps of scholars agree that Donald Trump is the worst post-1900 president though.


Oh, and Barack Obama is apparently now the 8th best president in American history, roughly on par with Eisenhower and Reagan. (The Republican scholars place him at 16th, where he still beats John Adams, James Madison, James Monroe and from the more contemporary office-holders JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and GWB.)
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2018, 02:57:30 PM »

This says more about academia than Trump. No matter how you feel Trump saying stupid/mean things does not surpass plunging the country into a civil war. Despite the partisan hysteria that surrounds every president, the worst presidents are the pre/post civil war era presidents: Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan, and Johnson. Outside of that era any reasonable person would rate Tyler, Harding, and Hoover worse than any President from the modern era
The thing is that there isn't a fundamental fault line as strong as slavery to plunge the nation into war right now.

Just like with the immediate pre-civil war presidents, Donald Trump could be accused in the future that he did most of his damage through inaction.

He doesn't do anything against climate change. He ignores (and ridicules) warnings of future Russian cyber-attacks. He's passive on gun violence etc.

Especially the climate change thing could be seen as roughly comparable to the Civil war fifty years from now or so.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 05:02:07 AM »
« Edited: February 20, 2018, 08:53:48 AM by Great Again: American Horror Story »

Kennedy, Trump and Jackson are WAY too low. LBJ is too high. So are Wilson and Obama.

I googled the three "scholars" and they are ultra liberal. Academics hate Trump, personally and politically.

To which "three" scholars are you referring to? The NY Times mentions only two by name and these are the two who conducted that survey. Who is the third one you're referring to??

In addition, on what is your assessment based that these two scholars are "ultra-liberal"? Which sites did you find that specifically stated that the two scholars are liberal? Because one of these two is Justin S. Vaughn from the Boise State University. According to Vaughn's Facebook account, he liked the pages of the following Republican politicians:

- Steve Yates, former chair of the Idaho Republican Party and currently running for the Republican nomination for Lieutenant Governor of Idaho
- Brad Little, incumbent Republican Lieutenant Governor of Idaho, currently running for the GOP gubernatorial nomination
- Tommy Ahlquist, also a candidate for the Republican nomination for Idaho governor
- Mike Simpson, Republican congressman from Idaho's 2nd district
- Jeff Sayer, Republican candidate for the Idaho State Senate

Vaughn doesn't seem to have liked any Democratic politicians though. In your opinion, is supporting multiple Republican candidates an indication for being "ultra-liberal"?

https://www.facebook.com/justinvaughnphd/about?lst=1521762832%3A100012201306729%3A1519121070

The survey itself was conducted among 170 members of the American Political Science Association, among them also a couple of Republican scholars. According to the NY Times article, if you take only the Republican scholars' responses into account, Donald Trump ranks 40th among the 44 presidents. Which is still pretty bad, even though slightly bettter than the Democrats' und Independents' responses.

Do you have any reason to believe that the Republican scholars' reponses were in any way falsified, as you seem to accuse the two authors of the survey to have been done just that?
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