Israel-Gaza war

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A Palestinian man has been killed by a Hamas rocket from Gaza that landed in the West Bank village near Tulkarm where he lived. Aside from the tragedy and irony of it all, this goes to show just how primitive these Qassam rockets are. They aren't spin-stabilized, unlike most other rockets, so they can't be targeted with any degree of accuracy.

The mayor stated he was killed by shrapnel from an Iron Dome missile that fell at the town entrance.

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45 Palestinians killed in airstrike on house, Gaza ministry says

https://apnews.com/live/israel-hamas-war-live-updates#0000018b-255b-d853-a3af-2dfb0f880000

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https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1713201470445609322?t=nVqK3ZBko7qWO8EC...

It looks more like a gas canister rupturing.

https://twitter.com/HKaaman/status/1713231080197612031

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https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1715808716463743212

Half of 18–34-year-olds being pro-terrorism is legitimately concerning.

I find this hard to trust considering other polls show 19% of 18-29 year olds and 9% of Americans sympathizing more with Palestine (page 78). https://www.scribd.com/document/678478269/20231016-yahoo-tabs-1

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https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1719129484199354382

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There was a rumor yesterday that a Givati Brigade armored spearhead was ambushed. This is the official confirmation from the IDF.
https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1719585827188023593

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1719716632530964822

Another four were killed in the same ATGM strike.

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The JSIL terrorists were literally hoist by their own petard

This is false.  They were raiding a building that was a Hamas stronghold, and the building was rigged by Hamas with explosives and detonated.  The building was demolished, and 21 IDF soldiers were killed.

Had the raid been successful, you guys would have called it "Israeli siege of civilian building" and included any Hamas soldier casualties in your "Palestinians killed by the war" tally.

BTW, this detonated building (destroyed by Hamas) will undoubtedly be included in those "80% of homes in Gaza damaged or destroyed by the war" talking point statistics.

Really obnoxious how people can simultaneously pretend this is a one-sided war where Israel is just pounding the hell out of Gazan homes for no reason other than cruelty, and on the other hand celebrate the glorious victories of the Hamas freedom fighters as they blow up a Gazan home (undoubtedly in a "refugee camp") and succeed in killing 21 Israeli soldiers.

According to an IDF spokesman the reservists were rigging explosives:

As part of the effort to build the buffer zone, Israeli reservists were rigging explosives to demolish two buildings inside the enclave’s perimeter on Monday when Hamas militants fired rocket-propelled grenades at the mission, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said. The first hit a building holding explosives, causing the collapse of two buildings and killing 21 soldiers. Another RPG round hit a tank, he added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/23/israel-soldiers-killed-gaza-war-hostages/

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https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1759918321720312055?t=JnW3C5n09zyPCRWt...

Lula isn't backing down. I agree, he shouldn't retract it. Was it hyperbolic? Sure. Pot meet kettle, Israel.

Netanyahu has previously claimed that the then Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini persuaded Hitler to exterminate the Jews: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-hitler/israels-netanyahu-stirs-trouble-by-linking-late-muslim-leader-to-holocaust-idUSKCN0SF15120151021/

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"Netanyahu has no chance, most Israelis are done with him."

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick/status/1767991748033167799/tweet]

I told you guys he'd pull ahead again if he wasn't ousted immediately after 10/7. This isn't a fixable country. Also you really have to live in some sort of bizarro upside down world to refer to the Israeli opposition as leftist but this is Caroline Glick after all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Israeli_legislative_election#Polls

This poll and Direct Polls in general is a significant outlier.

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Palestinian propaganda but soemthing interesting where he admits he had to buy it. Considering its an airdrop who else could be selling it but Hamas and/or other Gazans.

Ah yes, I've seen this video going around.  Really undermines the "Israel is starving Gaza to death" if this dude is just flippantly dismissing the food he's been given because it doesn't taste good enough.  I mean it's not like this is moldy bread or expired vegetables or something.  It's an MRE, it's designed explicitly for this purpose, normal soldiers eat this stuff.

https://epidemicproof.com/products/2023-mre-meal-11-vegetable-crumbles-with-pasta-in-taco-sauce

How does a single video refute the overall level of food insecurity? The fact that there are some Gazans able to afford food does not say anything about the overall food situation.

MREs are also not designed for humanitarian aid as they can cause refeeding syndrome and other issues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_daily_ration

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Ismail Haniyah’s three sons and three grandsons have been killed in a strike.

All active Hamas members, it looks like - Israel is being very open about having taken them out.

The three children killed were 4,8 and 10 years old respectively.

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No, Germany basically said “we aren’t quite convinced enough that they were aiding terrorists not to restore funding, but it’s possible that they were.”

You're the second person who has asserted this without providing any source in support.

At best the independent review the German government cited states that Israel has not provided any evidence for their claims:

Of note, UNRWA screens names using the New Consolidated List27 es-
tablished and maintained by the Security Council Committee. However, to
date, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, for example, have not been included in this
list by the UN Security Council.
UNRWA shares staff lists (names and functions) annually with host coun-
tries (Lebanon, Jordan and Syria), and with Israel and the US for East Je-
rusalem, Gaza and the West Bank.28 Sharing information on UN staff with
host countries is a regular practice that follows the Convention on Immunity
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and Privileges. It is then the responsibility of these States to alert UNRWA
of any information that may deem a staff member unworthy of diplomatic
immunity. Of note, the Israeli Government has not informed UNRWA of any
concerns relating to any UNRWA staff based on these staff lists since 2011.
During meetings with Israeli officials, it was communicated that Israel does
not consider the sharing of the staff list as a screening or vetting process,
but as a standard procedure for the registration of UN and diplomatic staff
to ensure their privileges and immunities.
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs informed that until March 2024, they
had received staff lists without identification (ID) numbers. On the basis of
the March 2024 list, which contained staff ID numbers, Israel made public
claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of
terrorist organizations. However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evi-
dence of this.

https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/independent-review-mechanisms-and-procedures-ensure-adherence-unrwa-humanitarian

There is also a separate investigation into the claims of a dozen employees being involved in Oct. 7, ten of whom have been fired.

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No, Germany basically said “we aren’t quite convinced enough that they were aiding terrorists not to restore funding, but it’s possible that they were.”

You're the second person who has asserted this without providing any source in support.

At best the independent review the German government cited states that Israel has not provided any evidence for their claims:

Of note, UNRWA screens names using the New Consolidated List27 es-
tablished and maintained by the Security Council Committee. However, to
date, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, for example, have not been included in this
list by the UN Security Council.
UNRWA shares staff lists (names and functions) annually with host coun-
tries (Lebanon, Jordan and Syria), and with Israel and the US for East Je-
rusalem, Gaza and the West Bank.28 Sharing information on UN staff with
host countries is a regular practice that follows the Convention on Immunity
22
and Privileges. It is then the responsibility of these States to alert UNRWA
of any information that may deem a staff member unworthy of diplomatic
immunity. Of note, the Israeli Government has not informed UNRWA of any
concerns relating to any UNRWA staff based on these staff lists since 2011.
During meetings with Israeli officials, it was communicated that Israel does
not consider the sharing of the staff list as a screening or vetting process,
but as a standard procedure for the registration of UN and diplomatic staff
to ensure their privileges and immunities.
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs informed that until March 2024, they
had received staff lists without identification (ID) numbers. On the basis of
the March 2024 list, which contained staff ID numbers, Israel made public
claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of
terrorist organizations. However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evi-
dence of this.

https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/independent-review-mechanisms-and-procedures-ensure-adherence-unrwa-humanitarian

There is also a separate investigation into the claims of a dozen employees being involved in Oct. 7, ten of whom have been fired.

UNRWA isn’t a credible source for anything

This review was done by outside groups as the name "Independent Review Group" suggests so I'm not sure what your point is here.

The Review Group commenced its work on 13 February 2024. Led by Ms.
Catherine Colonna, the Group included three research organizations, name-
ly the Raoul Wallenberg Institute of Human Rights and Humanitarian Law
in Sweden, the Chr. Michelsen Institute in Norway, and the Danish Institute
for Human Rights.

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Aryeh Neier, a cofounder of HRW thinks Israel is committing genocide based on "its sustained policy of obstructing the movement of humanitarian assistance into the territory".

As early as October 9 top Israeli officials declared that they intended to block the delivery of food, water, and electricity, which is essential for purifying water and cooking. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s words have become infamous: “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly.” The statement conveyed the view that has seemed to guide Israel’s approach throughout the conflict: that Gazans are collectively complicit for Hamas’s crimes on October 7.

Since then Israel has restricted the number of vehicles allowed to enter Gaza, reduced the number of entry points, and conducted time-consuming and onerous inspections; destroyed farms and greenhouses; limited the delivery of fuel needed for the transport of food and water within the enclave; killed more than two hundred Palestinian aid workers, many of them employees of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the principal aid provider in the blockaded territory before October 7; and persuaded many donors, including the United States, to stop funding UNRWA by claiming that a dozen of the agency’s 13,000 employees in Gaza were involved in the October 7 attack or have other connections to Hamas. (An investigation by former French foreign minister Catherine Colonna, released on April 22, concluded that Israel had provided no evidence to support its allegations and that UNRWA is “irreplaceable and indispensable.”) The air strikes on April 1 that destroyed all three vehicles in a World Central Kitchen convoy, killing six international aid workers and a Palestinian driver and translator, seemed a continuation of these policies. Israel’s explanation that this was the result of a “misidentification” has aroused skepticism. As a result, other humanitarian groups may be deterred from providing aid.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2024/06/06/is-israel-committing-genocide-aryeh-neier/

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Would Ireland/Norway/Spain have recognized Palestine in 2024 if 10/7 didn't happen?
No they likely wouldn't have.
Therefore logic follows that if Hamas's goal was to further the Palestinian cause they were 100% successful in their aims and the world is rewarding them for 10/7/.
Explain why someone whose number one goal is to support the Palestinian cause shouldn't support more 10/7s?

They likely wouldn't have recognized Palestine if Israel hadn't bombarded Gaza for six months, indiscriminately killing and maiming thousands of innocent people, making Palestine an even larger cause celebre in these countries. Logic should be not to commit horrific war crimes because it might just backfire.

Or if these kinds of plans weren't being advocated right now:

Under the auspices of Gaza 2035, the new free trade zone would be administered by Israel, Egypt, and what the Israeli Prime Minister calls the Gaza Rehabilitation Authority (GRA)—a proposed Palestinian-run agency that would oversee reconstruction in Gaza and “manage the Strip’s finances.”

The PowerPoint affirms that the GRA would not deliver Palestinian statehood and makes no reference to a two-state system. Instead, by 2035, Gaza and the West Bank would be placed under the “nominal administration” of the Palestinian Authority (PA) and Israel would be responsible for the free trade zone’s security. yNet correspondent Ron Ben Yishai called Gaza 2035 Benjamin Netanyahu’s “Singapore vision.”

https://www.archpaper.com/2024/05/benjamin-netanyahu-unveils-regional-plan-free-trade-zone-rail-service-neom/