Sarkozy = Idiot

[Хahar 🤔]

If you don't ban burqas, they will be imposed on Islamic women by their relatives and by community pressure. This greatly exacerbate the alienation and isolation of Muslims from the native population, contributing to the lack of integration and ethnic tensions. Muslims men often act abusive against non-muslim women because they're not covered. Would this happen to such extent if headscarves were banned.

Again, what about women who really want to wear burqas?

With the typical structure of the Islamic family and with the isolation and strong group pressure in their communities, it's virtually impossible to tell them apart from those who have burqas forced upon them. So it's better to be on the safe side.

I think I have a vague idea of where you're coming from, but understand that you're in Bulgaria.

[Хahar 🤔]

If you don't ban burqas, they will be imposed on Islamic women by their relatives and by community pressure. This greatly exacerbate the alienation and isolation of Muslims from the native population, contributing to the lack of integration and ethnic tensions. Muslims men often act abusive against non-muslim women because they're not covered. Would this happen to such extent if headscarves were banned.

Again, what about women who really want to wear burqas?

With the typical structure of the Islamic family and with the isolation and strong group pressure in their communities, it's virtually impossible to tell them apart from those who have burqas forced upon them. So it's better to be on the safe side.

I think I have a vague idea of where you're coming from, but understand that you're in Bulgaria.

I don't understand you. What do you mean by that?

Turkey is more...threatening isn't quite the right word. Turks vote in a bloc for the Turkish party. It's not like that in most places.

[Хahar 🤔]

Sarkozy = Idiot

In general, I strongly agree with your statement. But among every measures of Sarkozy administration, this is probably one of the best. Burqa is an oppression factor that has nothing to do in a democratic and free country. We must fight muslim fundamentalism and his reactionary practices.

What?

If a woman wants to wear one, why can't she?

[Хahar 🤔]

Why does "secular" mean "areligious"? This isn't Turkey. Separation of church and state works both ways.

[Хahar 🤔]

If you don't ban burqas, they will be imposed on Islamic women by their relatives and by community pressure. This greatly exacerbate the alienation and isolation of Muslims from the native population, contributing to the lack of integration and ethnic tensions. Muslims men often act abusive against non-muslim women because they're not covered. Would this happen to such extent if headscarves were banned.

Again, what about women who really want to wear burqas?

With the typical structure of the Islamic family and with the isolation and strong group pressure in their communities, it's virtually impossible to tell them apart from those who have burqas forced upon them. So it's better to be on the safe side.

I think I have a vague idea of where you're coming from, but understand that you're in Bulgaria.

I don't understand you. What do you mean by that?

Turkey is more...threatening isn't quite the right word. Turks vote in a bloc for the Turkish party. It's not like that in most places.

Threatening is quite the right word, considering that Turkey supports this party in all possible ways and Turkish politicians occasionally speak about "lost territories".
But this is not really a religious question, as the Bulgarian Turks are generally better integrated and less religious than those in Western Europe. It's more of an ethnic question.
The situation in the West, where religion is the important element of identification for most Muslims, is quite different. The encouragement of fundamentalist Islam does nothing for the integration of Muslims or their relations with the host countries.

And why is religion the important element of identification? Because the West makes it so. When you talk about the Islamic flood and how Muslims will destroy the native culture and impose their own, that's imposing a common identity. And Muslims will defend their religion from attacks from xenophobes and blind nationalists, and thus you've made a coherent group out of what was an amorphous group.

I don't like the idea that Muslim women want the burqa. How do you know that?

How do I know what? That women want to wear it or that you don't want them to wear it?

I know that there actually are women that want to wear it from numerous documentaries and from one on one conversations with Muslim individuals.

The former. If we're going to use personal experiences as evidence, then I and others could obviously dig up a whole load of personal evidence to counter that, but that's quite flawed, as I think you'd agree.

The burden of proof is on you, isn't it? You're the one who wants it banned.

[Хahar 🤔]

Sarkozy is a freedom fighter for this. But hijabs and Islamic dress codes should be banned and criminalized in general.

I have nothing against wearing hijabs by anyone as long as this is fully voluntary. That's why I have nothing against wearing crosses, as long, as this is voluntary as well.

And your idea seemed very, very xenophobic

Don't worry about him; he's a troll.