Libya: Benghazi unrest, to Civil War, to a new government and Gaddafi's death.

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Does anyone have a link to the speech?

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Who else agrees that alcohol being illegal in Libya is enough justification to overthrow the government and kill anyone who supports it?

Whatever government replaces the current one will not legalize alcohol.

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Just as Tunisia and Egypt influenced others, Libya may as well. If the country falls into a protracted civil war and humanitarian crisis, particularly if Qaddafi is able to re-take cities, this may have a chilling effect on protests elsewhere, particularly raising awareness of potential violent dynamics and the risks inherent in attempting a revolution. Such a chilling effect, at this point, would not be entirely unwelcome.

It's really rather difficult to come up with an adequate response to this.

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There should be intervention so the new government can be forced to legalize alcohol. Then we can pull out.

There is no chance that any Libyan government will legalize alcohol.

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Here we go again - Imperialist Europeans come to Africa and start slaughtering the natives. It is appalling.

Yes, because coalition members Morocco, UAE, Qatar, and Jordan are so white Imperialists.  

The UAE? Here I was thinking that this operation was a good thing...

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But the point is that there is something in the French mentalities that tends to believe that, every time there's something bad in the world, France should just fix it. Or at least that the role of French diplomacy is to serve the interests of oppressed people worldwide.

It's very amusing that the French of all people think this about their country.

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FWIW, I doubt any potential future Libyan government would end the ban on alcohol.

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I have absolutely no problem with Gaddafi being murdered by a mob of angry rebels. If anything there's something cosmically pleasing about it, much like when Ceausescu was executed, as Al brings up. Brutal, lawless dictators should die brutally and lawlessly at the hands of their own people.

Yeah, they don't deserve execution, particularly not in its modern, sanitized form.

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Let's talk about class...

When FDR died, Japanese Government, although the two sides waged a total war against each other, actually did offer condolences to the American people, following death of "the great man".

Now, compare it to some Western leaders reactions (especially laughing Hillary) on Gaddafi death, even if they were almost bowing to him before revolution started.

So, regardless of our opinions of Gaddafi himself, let's compare behavior of those "savage Japs" with current Western, civilized leaders.

Clearly we ought to offer condolences to the Libyan people on the occasion of the untimely death of their great leader. They would certainly appreciate that.

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If the leader of the Libyan government had died, I'm sure the US would've sent condolences.  However, the leader of the Libyan government, Mahmoud Jibril, is very much alive.  A rebel insurgent leading an armed insurrection against the legitimate and recognized Libyan Government died.  Sending a message of condolences to Libya would be like sending a message of condolence to Cambodia in the late 1990s when Pol Pot kicked the bucket.

Since you used that analogy, I wonder what the US would have done if Pol Pot had died in the 1980s.

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Forgive me for not caring that he didn't get a trial.

Those bloodthirsty Brits...

This is utterly disgusting.

Howso? I don't see anything wrong with that way of thinking. Brits certainly have good reasons to be happy about Gaddafi being gone.

It's kind of silly to say something like that given that whoever killed him was certainly not thinking of Lockerbie.

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Dwight Gooden c. 1985 was the best pitcher of the divisional era; only Pedro Martinez c. 2000 really comes close.

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Yes, I just really hope they legalize alcohol.

The people don't want that.

it is simply crazy to see leaders who don't understand religion helping to overthrow nonreligious dictators in support of Islamist elements...talk about jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I suspect they understand religion about as well as you do.