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My taxes are lower

I just mailed my check yesterday.  My taxes were NOT lower.  I should've benefitted from the marriage penalty, lower rates, but I did not.  I guess I'm just not rich enough to justify paying less in taxes.

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Roy Moore was a good man. Standing up to the Federal Govt is the proper thing to do. They had no right to remove the Ten Commandments. Show me in the constitution where it says, "Seperation of Church and State."

Yeah, we should have a theocracy like Iran.  That'd be better.  
Read your first amendment "establishment of religion" would be akin to church & state being identified as one, I would think.  Semantics, statesrights, semantics.  

On a side note, the framers didn't get EVERYTHING right.  They had political issues to deal with as well.  Don't forget, Slavery was legal then.  Just because the framers wouldn't agree with current interpretations of the constitution doesn't make those interpretations wrong.

Moore's actions were in direct violation of the law, no matter how heartfelt.  While I disagree with the actions of SF's mayor on similar grounds, he had not been previously told by a court not to perform the ceremonies he endorsed, so his actions are more defensible than Moore's in my opinion.

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Roy Moore was a good man. Standing up to the Federal Govt is the proper thing to do. They had no right to remove the Ten Commandments. Show me in the constitution where it says, "Seperation of Church and State."

Yeah, we should have a theocracy like Iran.  That'd be better.  
Read your first amendment "establishment of religion" would be akin to church & state being identified as one, I would think.  Semantics, statesrights, semantics.  

On a side note, the framers didn't get EVERYTHING right.  They had political issues to deal with as well.  Don't forget, Slavery was legal then.  Just because the framers wouldn't agree with current interpretations of the constitution doesn't make those interpretations wrong.

Moore's actions were in direct violation of the law, no matter how heartfelt.  While I disagree with the actions of SF's mayor on similar grounds, he had not been previously told by a court not to perform the ceremonies he endorsed, so his actions are more defensible than Moore's in my opinion.

Putting up a monument to the Ten Commandments, which is one of the modern foundations of law is hardly "Establishment" of any religion. Establishment would be Alabama saying "All citizens of the state of Alabama are here by required to worship in a baptist church and MUST show up every Sunday." Our laws are established on religious beliefs, get over it.

Interpretation? Follow it just as it says. Saying, well they meant this when they wrote this is a dangerous road to go down. Moore violated no law. The mayor of San Fran. knowingly violated the law and is continuing to taunt to state and federal government.

Moore was given a specific order to take down the monument.  Even if the order was erroneous in its interpretation of the constitution, it was the LAW, much like the erroneous decision the Supreme Court made giving Dubya the election was the LAW, regardless of how ridiculous it might have been.  Moore's decision to disregard the court order violated the law, a serious issue for a Judge, I'd say.  California courts seem conflicted on what Calif. law is with respect to gay marriage.  I have not studied the issue, so I have no idea what the law is there, but no court had given the SF mayor a direct order not to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples.  When that happens (which still has not occurred, to my knowledge) if the mayor continues to allow these unions to occur, his actions will be analogous to Moore's actions.

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I believe he was right in disregarding the court order. He felt the so called "law" or "interpretation" is flawed. Which it is for sure. The Feds have no business in such matters, leave it to the states to decide.

I don't think I can argue with you anymore.  You are all over the map.  Disregarding court orders because they are "flawed" is ok, but performing ceremonies which "may" not be sanctioned by state law, but you believe to be allowed by the state constitution, is lawless.  Even I am not that inconsistent.