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« on: July 28, 2021, 10:49:43 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2021, 01:36:07 PM »



Surely someone can primary her and still be electable in Arizona.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2021, 11:20:05 AM »

This is what a successful presidency looks like, one that follows through on its promises concretely, rather than bloviating on it year after year.

Biden has objectively accomplished a lot in the first 7 months. Hope the American people actually pay attention.


Doesn't help that Cuomo finally decided to resign like 30 minutes after the bill's passing. His resignation is going to get a bulk of coverage.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2021, 03:52:17 PM »



This is ****ing ridiculous
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2021, 08:21:45 PM »

Man, even more news breaking tonight



The Do-Nothing Caucus really want their media attention.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2021, 08:12:06 PM »



Sinema looks to be demanding a vote. No idea how she’ll react if it goes down. Probably willing to tank everything now or then if she doesn’t get some victory.

The Karen of the Senate.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2021, 09:25:38 PM »



"Trying to take down the president — not smart,” he added.

So what pray tell is what Sinema, Manchin and Gottheimer doing?
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2021, 01:56:05 PM »

The only political game is the one being played by Manchin. I’m convinced now he’s just posturing to ultimately kill the bills in their entirety. Is there anything he likes in the reconciliation bill?

Reminds of a bit in Obama’s book about Chuck Grassley
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2021, 09:15:41 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-rating-agencies-say-bidens-spending-plans-will-not-add-inflationary-2021-11-17/?taid=6194647e7ccf120001e2f311&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

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The two pieces of legislation "should not have any real material impact on inflation", William Foster, vice president and senior credit officer (Sovereign Risk) at Moody's Investors Service, told Reuters.

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"The bills do not add to inflation pressures, as the policies help to lift long-term economic growth via stronger productivity and labor force growth, and thus take the edge off of inflation," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, which operates independently from the parent company's ratings business.

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Charles Seville, senior director and Americas sovereigns co-head at Fitch Ratings, said the two pieces of legislation "will neither boost nor quell inflation much in the short-run."

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2021, 01:12:58 PM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-16/biden-economic-bill-gets-pushed-to-2022-amid-democrats-discord?sref=HQB7G2wY&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=business

Well this is dead now. Manchin and Sinema just tanked the Democrats of any chance of retaining the House and probably the Senate.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2021, 01:17:55 PM »

Can we just all note how the rightwing extremists who don’t like Trump for various reasons centrist Dems have gone from ‘why won’t you compromise’ to ‘Joe Manchin has a god given right to get everything he wants, when wants it, and also doesn’t need to compromise with dirty plebeians like you’. Yes, to cut you off he’s one of 50. Sherrod Brown is one of 50 and from a red state and actually gives a sh**t about his constituents. But he would never receive that treatment, because giving a sh**t means the things he wants doesn’t comport with the comfortable upper class, ‘race not class’ but don’t upset wealthy suburbs liberalism loved by people with media megaphones.

I’d also like to direct you to General MacAurthur name checking the alleged Democrat who has a hard on for destroying organized labor and remaking the party by and for management and investment interests and a dumb neoliberal twitter as the platonic ideals of Democratic politicians.

Strawman.  Nobody is saying "Manchin has a god-given right to get everything he wants."  I wish he wasn't a dickhole about it, but at the end of the day it is what it is.  Hating Joe Manchin and screaming about him all day won't accomplish anything.  You have to play the hand you're dealt and in this case that means doing whatever Manchin wants.

The problem like I mentioned in the previous thread is that Joe Manchin doesn't want anything. I don't think I've ever heard him speak about any issues. He mostly just wants to sit on his a**.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2021, 01:24:45 PM »

Again, notice the biased reporting.
Not ‘Manchin derails White House plan’, but ‘The President failed to rally Democrats’.

For an allegedly liberal media, they sure to do love Republicans and friends.

ACA wasn't passed until March.

Manchin won't let anything pass during an election year.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2021, 02:55:57 PM »

Guys, Manchin voted to pass BIF and the American Rescue Plan, he's voted for all the judges Biden has nominated and almost the entirety of Biden's cabinet picks, and he's voted for plenty of other important bills the Dems have passed with little fanfare.

Stop saying he's some chaos agent who just wants to kill the party and prevent anything from passing.  You just sound stupid.  I dislike his foot-dragging and cost-cutting as much as the next guy but getting all conspiratorial and overdramatic about it just makes you sound dumb.

There's no way of cutting it, that this has caused damage to the party. Biden ran on BBB and he's not getting it. We thought the bill would pass in the summer, then before Biden went on his first foreign trip, and then before Christmas. All that time wasted. Even if BBB passes next year, they lose one more chance on reconciliation that they didn't need to. Combined with headlines of inflation and for better or worse pulling out of Afghanistan, Biden needed this win. You can't rely on hatred for the Republicans to win elections.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2021, 09:46:46 AM »

The guy never intended on passing the bill and he was just trying to run the clock.

Biden spent alot of his political capital on BBB

Yep he was already running ads on it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2021, 10:25:59 AM »

https://twitter.com/JenniferShutt/status/1472585617083191305

His full statement. The part on energy is comedy gold.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2021, 11:16:13 AM »

Well with that, Senator Manchin should just as well officially leave the Democratic Party, and hand the Senate over to Republicans.   We have no further use of him now.  
We should kick his ass out.

Also too, the House should start up a hearing on Epipen price gouging. As a bonus, just how Heather Manchin got a WVU MBA with showing up to class may come up.

Not a good idea.  This reminds me of FDR going after a bunch of anti-New Deal Southern Dems which backfired and added to the GOP wave in the 1938 midterms.

To be fair, most of those losses were in the north and mid-west. Connecticut and Indiana in particular were bloodbaths. The South more or less stayed with the Democrats.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2021, 10:46:13 AM »

http://hill.cm/0cmpPOl

Goldman lowers 2022 growth forecasts after Manchin says no to BBB

Thanks Manchin.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2021, 10:57:43 AM »

https://twitter.com/taragolshan/status/1472950062531629060

"Manchin on WV radio saying he knew from the beginning he wouldn't support BBB, but let Democrats negotiate.

That he got to his "wits end" after staff (either White House or Senate) did *something* that angered him enough to just come out and say he was never going to get to yes"
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2021, 11:04:50 AM »

https://twitter.com/taragolshan/status/1472950062531629060

"Manchin on WV radio saying he knew from the beginning he wouldn't support BBB, but let Democrats negotiate.

That he got to his "wits end" after staff (either White House or Senate) did *something* that angered him enough to just come out and say he was never going to get to yes"
So he was negotiating in bad faith from the start and somehow has the audacity to blame the WH or his senate colleagues for making him walk away from the table when that was always his intention?

Just like Grassley and the ACA
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