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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« on: October 13, 2019, 04:23:23 AM »

Cheers PSOL for moderating this debate.

My fellow Southerners, it has been my honor to represent you in the Chamber not only as a delegate but also as deputy speaker and now as speaker. I am first and foremost a Southern patriot. I am here to serve the South.

As a delegate I have put forward a number of bills that have had bi-partisan support. I have a good working relationship with both timturner, a stalwart of the Chamber (both as speaker and deputy speaker), and the Governor YT. I have been a supporter of small and medium business who are the biggest employer, not a supporter of the big end of town. My Tax Inclusive Pricing Scheme and Gambling Immorality Tax have sort to aid an assist all southerners and those in need. In the first instance to be able to better budget personal and family finances and in the second to help those with an addiction.

Former Delegate, Speaker, Governor and President, Leinad has been involved in Atlasian politics for quite some time, and I have a great deal of respect from him. He's obviously a top bloke. Now Leinad has already mentioned
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I’ve heard people say “Leinad isn’t active enough,”
Leinad's previous session in the chamber he quit part way through. He missed a number of votes. That's not ideal. The only votes I haven't been available for have been when I was on a declared leave of absence. I have topped the non-procedural word count for both chambers I've had the honor of serving in. I have always sort the best outcome for the South. Region above party. I deescalated tension with the other regions with PragCo. I am first and foremost a Southerner and will fight for Southern interests. I have demonstrated myself to me pro-regionalism.

The Atlas Conservative Party is a new party and as their representative in our great region, I have shown that I have fresh idea's that aren't partisan. As I mentioned earlier my Tax Inclusive Pricing Scheme had bi partisan support. It would have had unanimous support had delegate Leinad turned up in time for the vote. I'm not having a go at Leinad. As I said it's obvious he's a top bloke. I am merely emphasizing that I have a proven track record of activity and an ability to produce bills that aren't partisan. I even amended TIPS to get it passed. I have always sort to make what I've seen as bad bills better (even if that means it need a total rework).

I hope that all Y'all will see that I am providing a positive vision and wont be blinded by the word Conservative next to my name. I'm here to build for the future. My plan for Regional Service will provide those struggling with unemployment. Providing the opportunity to develop skills while having the dignity of paid work. I am here to provide for the rural communities of our great region. My infrastructure program will ensure that our rural communities are not forgotten. I am here to provide a positive vision for the great region of the South. I ask for your vote come next weekend. Dave bless y'all.
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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2019, 06:08:59 AM »

Economy:
>In light of the South having the highest rate of malnutrition in Atlasia, what exact path shall you direct to aide in alleviating this issue?
I believe there are a number of things that could be done. A focus on nutrition in home economics class for one. Helping people break addiction to illicit substances so that they will be able to spend more on food would be another. My plan Southern Regional Service will assist with those who are struggling financially due to unemployment put good food on the table. Food Banks are another part of the puzzle. It'll take communal action to alleviate this problem.


>What should be the role of unions in the Southern Economy?
I am not opposed to Unions. Unions have helped a great number of people in the past. In fact I pointed out in the chamber that it was a good thing that existing Federal legislation already covered what was proposed in S.19.3-12: Workers Free Association Act. Furthermore I didn't vote against the bill. It should go without saying that Unions have a part to play in the economy. I'm not here to dictate or impose what the role of labor union's should or shouldn't be. That's a matter for the Chamber.

>The South has the areas in which teachers are the worst paid in the nation, with there also being the worst rates of student participation and qualitative results, do you see a pattern there?
I think resourcing for schools in general would be conducive in raising participation and results. Teachers aids are a part of the puzzle of increasing student participation and Regional Service will also include a teachers aid program. Lower student to teacher ratios are important part of enabling better pedagogical outcomes in our education system.


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>How would you respond to the changing “gig economy” in the South
Like all things there are positives and negatives with a "gig economy". It can enable people the extra freedom of flexible work. However it can also make it harder for those wanting full time work. I believe that a personal income tax credit/rebate for those who have only a part time job but who are willing to do volunteer work would be beneficial for our communities. Of course this would need to be debated in the chamber and to a small tax rise on some sectors that have enjoyed our low taxes would be required.

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>With the South being at the forefront of tax decreases and Laissez-faire economic policies, where exactly will you supply these needed funds to ensure a working government?
Well my Gambling Immorality Tax was in fact a rise in taxes on a specific sector of the economy. I am willing to expand on that existing base. So I'm not ideologue hell bent on cutting all taxes. When I have advocated for cuts it's been for small and medium business to help aid them compete with the big end of town. Small and medium business are our biggest employers. They are heavily financially invested in our communities and want to see our communities flourish more than big multinationals corporations. A small increase on big business is one way to ensure an increase government revenues. Paygo and a balanced budget are very important. Our growing economy will also increase the size of the economic pie that all southerners will benefit from. Regional Service will help those in unemployment get a bigger slice of the pie and help build our region.

Law and Order:
What are your positions on free speech, especially requiring permits to protest and banning masks at protests?
I am pro freedom of speech. I was cosponsor for a resolution to lobby those in Nyman to support and defend freedom of speech on the internet. Leinad was against the resolution.

The right to freedom of expression should be absolute.
What do you define as hate speech? Do people have the right to say whatever they want? What if anything should government, society and other individuals do to prevent, respond to and or combat hate speech?

"Hate speech" can be and is interpreted in a few different ways depending on who you ask. I'm not gonna bother trying to come up with a definition for it, because the right to free speech should be absolute, no buts and no matter how hateful or offensive it may be. Sure, there are plenty of things people would be better off not saying, but unless actual crimes are committed there's no reason to restrict it.
I agree with Representative MB 100%.

I can understand that a permit makes some form of sense regarding a mass demonstration with the potential community disruption. It's not something I'm particularity in favor of. Masks aren't conducive to dialogue. If you're wearing a mask and feel the need to hide your face that's a sad state of affairs. If your breaking the law while your wearing a mask, you're admitting that you know you are doing the wrong thing and just want to escape justice.


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> With the growing discontent around police brutality, boiling up in the clashes in Ferguson and St. Louis, what are your comments?
Our boys in blue have a tough job fighting crime. If there is indeed in fact an increase in police brutality I am happy to launch an inquiry into the matter. It is also on the citizenry to comply with law enforcement. Attacking police generally isn't going to end well. Violence begets violence.

Domestic Agenda:
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> What will be your relations between the government of the South and the Native Reservations situated inside?
One of dialogue as it takes two to tango. There are problems with high rates of violent crime and a very low prosecution rate that needs to be addressed, higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse. Pushing for the legalization of harder drugs won't solve problems for our Native brothers and sisters. A lack of opportunity leads to many natives living in poverty. My plan for regional service would be able to work with reservations to create jobs. There needs to be a serious discussion about treatment for drug and alcohol abuse, not making these easier to obtain. I want to work with the reservations to ensure accurate reporting of crimes and that there is justice for victims. I am open to working with the federal government to either better manage the assets of these reservations, and their tribe members. However a better solution might be for the federal government to release their ownership of these lands and allow tribes to own the land for themselves. I am happy to work with members of Congress as well as the executive branch and relevant cabinet departments to achieve this.

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>There has been incidents of Anti-Homeless initiatives, such as the presence of public architecture designed to prevent people from sleep and the buzzing of Homeless out of the Southern rural areas. What will your policies designed to tackle the issue of homelessness look like?
My plan for Southern Regional Service would assist in alleviating this issue by providing some income so they can find a roof over their heads. I think the odd grant to charities that's entire raison d'être is to help the homeless, would also be of great assistance. Most important of all is I think it behooves all Southerner's to be the change. Not just rely on the the government to be the sole source to solve everything. It's on all of us and help our fellow Southerners who are struggling. I'd like to thank those who are volunteering with the homeless and are helping make the South a better place.

>What role should the Confederacy be recognized as part of Southern Heritage?
It's a part or our history whether we like it or not. It's self evident that it is a part of our heritage. The Confederacy will always be recognized as a part of Southern Heritage by the people who live in the South. No amount of government involvement can change that, nor should it be the Southern government's job to erase history. To white wash it out would not be of help to anyone and would make our understanding of history that much poorer.

Federalism:
>To Muaddib: The South is at the epicenter of resistance to the federal government back at Nyman, what will your relations be with the current federal government? Will your previous career hinder or perhaps mirror these developments?
The South is different from Lincoln and Fremont. If diversity is indeed our strength, then it should matter that the South is different. I have always sort dialogue and my proposal for a Council of Atlasian Governments Act demonstrates my commitment to that. I will stand up for Southern interests and make sure the South gets the best deals possible. I am also on good terms with our current Regional Senators and with both Senate candidates, Rep. MB and Del. Deadprez. As to how those relations will look like with the white house should the President be reelected next weekend? You'd have to ask the President, I am happy to dialogue. But the South should never be dictated to.
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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2019, 03:17:39 AM »

Questions:
From S019:
>do you believe that big business should be regulated?
> Exactly what is your position on a carbon tax and why?
>. what are your views on increased gun control measures?
>what is your view on abortion?

1. Of course there should be regulations. Monopolies aren't good for anyone that isn't a shareholder. It's a matter of what aspects are regulated and how much.

2. We have a Federal Carbon Tax that was instituted by former President fhtagn. I don't believe that any further increases in carbon taxation is going to do anything beneficial for the average Southerner other than raise their power prices. Labor carbon tax money-go-rounds aren't going to solve this issue faster. We in the South are on our own path of direct action. The South has been taking direct action by moving further towards nuclear power. I put forward the S.19.2-10: SNUSNU (Southern Nuclear Utilization Scheme Next-gen Update). Nuclear power is the way to provide the most cost effective power, in a carbon friendly way. This was again passed with by partisan support. Again almost unanimously, but again Delegate Leinad failed to turn up to vote, and was yet again in favor of my bill.
It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

SNUSNU was designed not only to enable the existing waste to be used as power sources provide cheap power for all Southerners but further help combat climate change in a cost effective and environmentally responsible manner.

Vice Presidential candidate Wulfric is wrong when he says
...the South (which has taken no action whatsoever to address the issue).
The fact that a former member of the Chamber is now calling on imposing double the taxation on his former region over that of other regions despite the fact we are taking action is quite frankly appalling.


3. I'm a pro 2nd Amendment candidate. I've either voted in favor of, or put forward Pro 2nd Amendment bills such as:
S.19.2-2: Amended Firearm Education Act
S.19.2-14: Insurance companies can't deny you because you have a gun act
HB 19-42: Let the Hobbyists do their thing act

Anything put forward by Winfield or S019 is most likely unconstitutional and just dogmatic "gun are bad". Maybe their unconstitutional advocacy is cause they want 1776 to commence again?


4. I'm by and large a pro-life candidate.


To Southern Speaker Muaddib:
> Can you please give examples of people not following the law in cases of police brutality?
Any riot where the crowd fails to follow police calls to disperse. Key points on the issue in general are that I'm happy to launch an inquiry into police brutality and would like to see more body cams on law enforcement. Then there is recorded visual evidence of any incident that arises.

> Exactly how is taking home economics going to solve malnourishment? Related to that point , can you explain what solving things “communally” looks like?
A communal approach is a holistic way of tackling societal ills. So all levels of society at large contribute in some way to solving to alleviating an problem. For example when I wasn’t working full time I would volunteer for an organisation that ran a breakfast club at junior high schools. Many students didn’t have breakfast and the school was happy for us to operate a breakfast club. Food stuffs were supplied from donations from businesses and individuals in the local area and run by volunteers. This ensured that students had the opportunity to have a meal and have the nourishment and energy to start the school day. All because a bunch of locals decided that it was a good idea to feed the local school kids, it even got a grant from the local council. A good show case of the Jeffersonian ideal of decisions being made closest to those it effects. Now Home Economics would enable all students to learn some nutritional and culinary life skills which are handy life skills to have and will be of extra value in times of economic and family hardship. Being able to add some flavor and nutrition to an otherwise bland meal when your parents might unable to feed you or later in life know what is a good cost effective nutritional meal. It's a good life skill a part of a solution as a whole. It’s about finding long term holistic, communal solutions and not just a governmental band aid, wallpapering over greater societal issues. We the people of the South as a society need to be the change.


> Can you expand on what you mean by making alcohol “harder to obtain” on reservations?

Well what I actually said was..
Quote from: Southern Speaker Muaddib, Candidate for Governor
There needs to be a serious discussion about treatment for drug and alcohol abuse, not making these easier to obtain.
This isn't trying to making alcohol harder to obtain, but simply recognizing that loosening existing laws will not help those who struggle with drug and alcohol abuse. Furthermore I said that my relationship with reservations would be one of dialogue. Any changes should be with consultation including those who want to make these substances more readily available.


>Mr Speaker, several of those impediments to the homeless are done through the work financed by the decisions of the Southern Chamber. How would “taking government” out of the equation aide them.
Well, I've already said that my plan for Regional Service would be helping them get skills for jobs and some paid work. I also mentioned with regards to malnutrition a need to a holistic communal approach. So to with this issue. For instance, religious and volunteer organisations that run things such as soup kitchens, homeless shelters, with donations from local businesses, assistance from locals and local government. It's about getting the community as a whole involved is solving issues. Not imposing a solution from on high. The only way you can get to satisfactory solutions to problems is with that holistic, communal action. The people of the South as a whole need to be the change.


> What are your responses to the argument that the Confederacy was racist against African-Americans, and the continued public support of them helps marginalize and intimidate them?
The Confederacy was a product of it’s time and context, as are we. It’s only in the last 100 odd years that racism in the western world has been on the decline. It’s still alive and well outside the west. The man who freed the slaves was also a racist by any modern standard and his name is the name of one of the regions of Atlasia. Is George Washington a racist? Is Jefferson? Both owned slaves. Should we tear down their statues? Confederate monuments are by and large monuments to soldiers. Not there to glorify slave holding or slavery. The war between the states was incredible destructive to the states of the Confederacy and those states make up a lions share of our great region. It was a historically and culturally significant event. If you're living in fear of a long gone institution we are well rid off. For well over 150 years now. I don’t know how removing statues of historic significance about a destructive time in our history is going to make things any better.
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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2019, 01:31:54 AM »

Polls have opened and Leinad is yet to answer the second round of questions
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