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CumbrianLefty
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« on: November 12, 2022, 07:35:37 AM »

The Islamic Republic seems to be in a race on whether it can prove its regime to be more ruthless and murderous than that of the Shah. 

It won that race back in 1979

Or certainly by the mid 1980s anyway.

And given how utterly vile the Pahlavi regime was, that remains an "impressive" achievement.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2022, 12:18:13 PM »

None of you really care about the protesters or their needs

You can read other posters minds now?
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2022, 07:21:26 AM »

I'm not defending Iran's harsh penal system, but I doubt they execute 15,000 protestors.

Yes, that headline always came across as somewhat clickbaity.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2022, 06:43:32 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2022, 06:51:36 AM by CumbrianLefty »

Yeah. I think the Shah only killed around 400 people (excluding the 3,000 revolutionary deaths), so the Islamic Republic won that race by either the Summer of ‘79 or sometime in 1981 at the latest.

Hmmm, even if this means *only* "people killed by the security forces during the 1978-79 uprising" it is almost certainly a significant underestimate.

If applied to his reign more generally, it is almost risibly inaccurate.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2022, 06:15:17 AM »

And some people here are still going to tell you it wasn't better before 1979. I miss the Shah !

It wasn't, certainly for a lot of people.

Why on earth do you think the revolution happened in the first place?

And had the support of about three quarters of the population (at least) when it did??

This is just a more modern version of "actually, the Czars were good". And equally obviously false.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2022, 07:35:05 AM »

And some people here are still going to tell you it wasn't better before 1979. I miss the Shah !

It wasn't, certainly for a lot of people.

Why on earth do you think the revolution happened in the first place?

And had the support of about three quarters of the population (at least) when it did??

This is just a more modern version of "actually, the Czars were good". And equally obviously false.

Women in Iran had more freedom before the Islamic Republic. I don't think it's debatable.

Even if true, irrelevant to the point I was making.
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