UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[CumbrianLefty]

Parris has produced a fair amount of fairly ghoulish stuff recently.

Wasn't it him who wrote a full column stating that neither autism or ADHD existed, and it was all the fault of bad parenting... in 2024? There's so much guff in the opinion pages these days, that it's hard to keep track.

Also some "wHy Oh WhY CaN'T wE tAlK aBoUt ImMiGrAtIoN??!!!!!??!!!??!!111!!!" pieces.

[CumbrianLefty]

But outside the hard core (some of whom could still end up voting Reform for other reasons) even saying that "we delivered on our pledge to bring about Brexit" is a bit of a double edged sword now.

Agree on why not just Labour but LibDems are still mostly keeping quiet about it now (to the chagrin of extremely online #FBPE types) but this is something where simply the Tories losing power could make a significant difference, plus demographics as WW2 obsessed boomers finally start to die off.

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, one does wonder if he regrets quitting the Commons in a strop now.

[CumbrianLefty]

I agree with that, but quitting removed any chance of him remaining relevant.

(in the near future at least)

[CumbrianLefty]

Well, her politics *were* slightly different when she became an MP in 1989.

[CumbrianLefty]

Hoey was one of only two Labour MPs to vote against a hunting ban when the original bill sponsored by Mike Foster was first voted on in late 1997 - Llin Golding being the other.

(I almost wrote "the late Llin Golding", but a google revealed she is still alive at 91)

[CumbrianLefty]

Which could quite easily happen, but I suppose the Tories have little to lose in gambling that it won't.

[CumbrianLefty]

The belief that Western society is seeing an epidemic of child abuse is deeply held and Tory MPs have to reflect that.

Very few people in Britain — including very few Conservative voters — believe this. This is the language of the conspiratorial American far right.

Indeed, the above post seemed to import Trumpism/Qanonism wholesale into the UK. Without being at all complacent, that is a very mistaken reading of where we currently are.

[CumbrianLefty]

Not only that, but the partner of a certain Labour peer (and former deputy leader) whose own links with the gambling industry are well known.

[CumbrianLefty]

Not only that, but the partner of a certain Labour peer (and former deputy leader) whose own links with the gambling industry are well known.

Ex partner I think?

Maybe, must admit that I am not up to date with all the "goss".

[CumbrianLefty]

One other point of interest is that around half a dozen LibDem MPs actually voted in favour of the ban and the rest abstained. That none voted against has caused a bit of internal disquiet - some activists take the "liberal" part of their name incredibly seriously.

[CumbrianLefty]

But, b-but....the CyberNats have been attacking Labour non stop for their "u-turn" over green policy!

[CumbrianLefty]

Well, there is and always has been such a thing as social liberalism.

[CumbrianLefty]

Meanwhile, our PM was genuinely scraping beyond the bottom of the barrel yesterday - scaring sick and disabled people to get a few headlines in the captive right wing press, when at this point nothing he says on the topic is actually going to come into effect before the GE anyway.

[CumbrianLefty]

I'm so (not) in the loop that this has almost totally passed me by

Still haven't seen whatever the supposedly so "offensive" thing was.

(though maybe you could have woken up the TIGMOO thread for this, its what it is there for after all)

[CumbrianLefty]

Ho ho very satirical.

Sunak now says he expects the first flights there in "10 to 12 weeks", but there is surely scope for the timetable to slip further. And even optimistically that puts it into early July.

[CumbrianLefty]

Despite the continuing speculation otherwise, that remains the default and likeliest scenario.

[CumbrianLefty]

Surely the only question still unresolved at this point is whether the SGP vote against or abstain - at this moment I agree with those who suspect the latter, but who knows.

[CumbrianLefty]

He's really not very good at this stuff.

Having him as leader *might* have worked passably well in the SNP (and Green) majority days.

[CumbrianLefty]

Well he probably didn't but that's not really an excuse.

[CumbrianLefty]

On Laura Kuenssberg’s Sunday show, Alex Salmond claimed polling is predicting Alba will get 20 seats in the next Scottish Parliament election. Given actual polling has them on 2-3% on the list vote (aka 0-1 seats), I’m rather sceptical.

Of course if LK was any use, she would have asked him for a citation supporting this dubious claim.

[CumbrianLefty]

It remains astonishing how badly Humza played an admittedly not great hand.

[CumbrianLefty]

Has Labour already selected a candidate for Dover?

She doesn't intend to stand at the next GE. So like the ipswich one before the locals this is cause of anger over the Tories,  not a desire to stick with Labour.

Though like in other FPTP systems,  a open seat is usually a easier lift than one with a incumbent.

Also perhaps a response of genuine anger after the voters pissed on the Conservatives last week,  and Sunak is going around claiming that it's just raining.

Yes, one thing this has likely done is truly kill off any attempt to resurrect the "cOaLiTiOn Of ChAoS?!" thing that Sunak and some of *the* most pathetically servile hacks were pushing.

[CumbrianLefty]

One of the things that makes an election before late in the year unlikely.

[CumbrianLefty]

I think she's going for the Substacker vote in the post-GE leadership poll...

Do explain.....