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« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2023, 06:28:31 AM »

It is one year today since......well, you know.
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« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2023, 03:44:06 PM »

The fun thing is that other than a handful of IEA types

Who are, however, massively over-represented in our pundit class.
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« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2023, 04:24:40 AM »

I suppose the "Global Left" (including the international finance markets, well known for their Marxism) being the cause of all our ills makes a change from invoking the "Blob" at least.
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« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2023, 07:26:54 AM »

They funnily enough seem to be doing the 2010 labour approach of putting loads of ex staffers into safe seats.

It worked really well that time at least!

This does seem in part an attempt to avoid the fruitcakes a bit too evident in the 2019 intake. But as you say, it has possible pitfalls of its own.....
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« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2023, 07:05:27 AM »

Labour are the unpatriotic ones, though.
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« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2023, 07:58:40 AM »
« Edited: September 15, 2023, 08:10:30 AM by CumbrianLefty »

I agree, and if it really *is* a notional LibDem seat now its even harder to see them not winning it.

(Tories actually in third may not be impossible though)
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« Reply #106 on: September 17, 2023, 09:47:14 AM »

I still recall the exultant triumphalism from the likes of Allister Heath the day after the mini-budget.

They genuinely believed that they had carried off "a Very British Coup".

In retrospect, one interesting thing is how calmly Reeves and Starmer responded to it - almost as if they knew it was going to blow up in the Tories faces within days.
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« Reply #107 on: September 20, 2023, 08:44:18 AM »

I didn't take it seriously, but the fact there was even a half-assed rumour about her crossing the floor a while back told its own story really. She really does sound like she will be happier out of it.
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« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2023, 07:26:49 AM »

The person in question was a Labour supporter until after the 2010 GE - never mind the involvement with Putin, how on earth did they miss that??
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« Reply #109 on: September 27, 2023, 08:11:49 AM »

Sharma at least seems to have spared them the by-election that did seem very possible at one point.
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« Reply #110 on: October 01, 2023, 06:49:16 AM »

Most of this stuff is going to be basically unenforceable for all sorts of reasons. Which gives away what it is *really* about - getting fawning coverage in the still captive press, of course.
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« Reply #111 on: October 02, 2023, 05:48:33 AM »

Her ratings are terrible, though.

She has to find a way of correcting that before being taken seriously.
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« Reply #112 on: October 03, 2023, 10:28:37 AM »

A year ago, Coutinho confided in a journalist at conference about how much of the party was going down the rabbit holes of online conspiracy theory - and this made her sad and worried.

Now.....
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« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2023, 05:16:54 AM »

Government minister Nus Ghani (herself the victim of religious discrimination), has been scathing about Susan Hall’s attacks on Sadiq Khan (and draws unfavourable comparisons with Zac Goldsmith’s campaign, which will raise some eyebrows). All with Steve Baker, of all MPs, nodding along in the background. I do wonder if we could be headed towards Hall being forced out, with someone like Paul Scully imposed instead at this point.

I doubt it, as long as polls continue to show her competitive at any rate.

One also shouldn't underestimate how many of them have now convinced themselves that going full fat Orbanist is going to prove to be that elusive election winner. All the polling that claims otherwise is itself just an ELITE WOKE ANTI-BRITISH CONSPIRACY, don't you know?

What this week has shown is how loads of Tories are totally high on their own fumes now.
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« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2023, 05:28:56 AM »

I mean......what on earth has the Allisterheathograph done to upset him?
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« Reply #115 on: October 05, 2023, 10:00:45 AM »
« Edited: October 05, 2023, 12:24:07 PM by CumbrianLefty »

Some speculate whether the Tories think this is a winning strategy for the next general election. Others speculate whether they have accepted their fate and are turning up the gears whilst they remain in government. I would offer an alternative possibility. Under a Labour government and an uninspiring Conservative opposition there is potential for another rise of a Faragist outfit. In 2019, and to a lesser extent 2014, this represented something of an existential crisis for the Conservative Party. The cultural warrior stuff and the literal cosying up to Farage at the conference may be an attempt to reduce the possibility of this occuring. Of course all of this may open up the possibility of a threat from the Lib Dems, but I doubt that's part of their thinking at the moment.

I do think some in the party haven't forgotten getting only 9% in the last European elections.

Whether this is the appropriate response to secure their future is another matter, of course.
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« Reply #116 on: October 06, 2023, 06:55:23 AM »

She came mighty close to 4% approval ratings in a much shorter timescale tbf.
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« Reply #117 on: October 08, 2023, 06:57:52 AM »

Also did Liz Truss seriously sign a copy of the mini-budget at that conference (source)? That really takes the cake for shamelessness.

Imagining what Michael Foot's reaction would have been if you had handed him a copy of that election manifesto to sign.

I think he continued to defend it as a "broadly correct" document tbf.
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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2023, 08:52:22 AM »

The willingness of Hands to humiliate himself on a daily basis is almost becoming admirable now.
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« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2023, 10:26:26 AM »

I absolutely did not know that so many Aussies are privately educated. Mind blown.
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« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2023, 05:30:13 AM »

Even by current government standards, Grant Shapps hit a real low on the airwaves yesterday.
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« Reply #121 on: October 16, 2023, 06:25:28 AM »

His slightly comic image has always obfuscated the fact that he is a nasty piece of work.

(even before he entered parliament, he gained notoriety in the 1990s for being notably ungenerous with workers in his business - and got featured in Labour pro-minimum wage propaganda)
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« Reply #122 on: October 16, 2023, 07:32:31 AM »

That does help explain why Gove hasn't achieved all he might have in politics, despite his undoubted intelligence and (certainly by current Tory standards) ability.
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« Reply #123 on: October 20, 2023, 08:52:23 AM »

Labour's numerical vote at the Dudley West byelection in 1994 - which remains the biggest Tory to Labour swing since WW2 - was famously down on what they had in the 1992 GE. Tories clutched at this straw with almost unseemly alacrity - "there is no actual enthusiasm for Labour, our voters all stayed at home and come the GE they will return and we will win a fifth successive victory".

Sound familiar?
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« Reply #124 on: October 21, 2023, 05:33:09 AM »

There was a time, well within living memory, when Labour was mostly pro-Israel and the Tories mostly pro-Arab (as it was generally put back then) Of course, the word "mostly" applied in both cases.

Blunt is in many ways a throwback to those times.
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