European Elections 2009 (France)

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Electorally speaking, DSK would be the most probable winner in 2012.
But the PS (or the left involved in open primaries) won't pick him.

Actually, if he runs and if they are not that dumb, they will be forced to choose him.

So.... Sarkozy or a more moderate right-winger with some popularity before 2012. I don't see any, except Borloo, but he's too drunk and disorganized....

Actually, that's just my opinion but I think that Sarkozy burned everything around him, at the right and at the left. The only who would have some chances today to me on the right would be Villepin.

And, even if now he allows him more populism than ever, Bayrou stays ahead for me, and remains the most decent leader compared to other ones, well maybe except Strauss-Kahn, anyways, he remains the one with the most of chances to win, his only problem is that, as I said, 2012 is still...far, and he's only sized for the presidentials. Such is Villepin. So that guys have a lot of time to make some mistakes, and Bayrou already did in this campaign.

Adding to this Besancenot who pushes to the revolution, that's why i wrote: "will people wait?". If everybody does the climate will be very "heavy".

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Does anyone see the Greens replacing the Communists as the largest leftwing party in France after the PS? 

Personally no. Front de Gauche or NPA, but not Greens, they are too much on a tie with Modem to become that big, and they become more center-left than left it seems.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Does anyone see the Greens replacing the Communists as the largest leftwing party in France after the PS? 

Personally no. Front de Gauche or NPA, but not Greens, they are too much on a tie with Modem to become that big, and they become more center-left than left it seems.

Don't forget one thing: political parties are financed with public money, for a large part. And the money goes were the elected politicians are. So, it's hard to grow outside an already entrenched party in the Parliament.
So, the PS is here for a long time, I think.

Yes, yes, but his question concerned communists and the force coming "after the PS".

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-europeennes/portfolio/2009/06/07/les-personnalites-politiques-votent-pour-les-europeennes_1203573_1168667.html

Picture 1 is especially funny. You would think that Carla votes Green and that Sarko votes Libertas.

For those who want live streaming, France2 starts at 19:45 local time, LCP has something too (I don't know if there's live streaming), France3, TF1-LCI, I-Tele probably all have stuff too.

Exit polls at 20:00 local time, as per usual. That is 14:00EST.

For those who don't go in the television coverage thread:

The both news channel of our free TV network will make the best cover:

i>télé will rule it from 7h30pm to 0am (local time). And at about 9am there will be Domenach and Zemmour, could be intersting.

BFM TV will also make the whole evening on it.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Impressive figures for overseas territories, I wasn't aware it was that much.

Official figures for turnout at 5 pm:

33.18% (33.24% in 2004)

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I'll probably zap between France2 and i>télé, and now I'm on i télé, it's going to begin. I'll zap on BFM too, to see. France2 could have the biggest people, we'll see, anyways, as for me it's on tv that's easy with a zapper.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

ITele fail:

"Bayrou voted in Pau, Pyrenees-Orientales"

Epic geography fail.

Mouhahaha

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I'll probably spend most of my time i télé even with their geographical originalities, Zemmour is already here there.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I'm at the Modem office, and very happy to see all these frustrated faces :-)

héhéhé.

In Paris?

As I said, if they make 12%, they could be happy, they don't deserve a victory anyways.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-europeennes/portfolio/2009/06/07/les-personnalites-politiques-votent-pour-les-europeennes_1203573_1168667.html

Picture 1 is especially funny. You would think that Carla votes Green and that Sarko votes Libertas.

Wow, French elections waste a lot of paper.

Actually, compared to a lot of other countries, I think we use to have the smallest voting papers in elections in general...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-europeennes/portfolio/2009/06/07/les-personnalites-politiques-votent-pour-les-europeennes_1203573_1168667.html

Picture 1 is especially funny. You would think that Carla votes Green and that Sarko votes Libertas.

Wow, French elections waste a lot of paper.

Actually, compared to a lot of other countries, I think with have the smallest voting papers...

Yes, but in other countries, all parties are one paper. In France, you have small papers for each party. It's a waste.

Ah, OK, I didn't know that. Thanks.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

The hacks on ITele know something we don't. They're talking about the death of social democracy...

That are good hacks. If only something important could happen to shake the guys...

God. SEVEN minutes!

France is keeping its breath...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Will UMP make 28%??

France is keeping its breath...

hum, just a (little) third of France...

Héhéhé. Was of course ironical.

2:30

What a sad nerd I am. My heart is beating hard.

mouhaahah

GO!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

mouhahahah

it failed!

Greenies could be ahead of PS!!!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Héhéhé let's keep cool.

France2 doesn't speak about it for Greenies. They give PS 17.5 and greenies 14.

i télé was on opinion way. Well, let's wait to know more...

Modem 9%

WTFFFF!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I stay on France2 seems more interesting for now.

PS less than 18% Yes!!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Front de Gauche 6%. No surprise for them.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Oh dear, the MoDem is blaming the movie "HOME". Wow, you're dumber than I even thought.

I may zap too much. Who dared??

Peillon speaking about a new 21st April. They may learn a lesson now.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

IDF

UMP 30.5%
Greens 19.7%
PS 14%
MoDem 8%

Benoit Hamon will NOT be re-elected, IMO.

Surely, they feared he could be not elected in case of less than 18%, so 14%...

What a slap.

Aubry speaks.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Revised French exit poll:

UMP 28.3%
PS 16.8%
Greens 15.7%
MoDem 8.5%

AEI at "3%". So Greenies of all stripes are ahead of the PS.

Damn, where you got that one?

Aubry doesn't resign.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Revised... again. The PS' second-place is NOT guaranteed!

UMP 28.3%
PS 16.8%
Greens 16%
MoDem 8.5%

Great

Really waiting for 10pm now.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

In IDF:

5 UMP, 4 Greens, 2 PS, 1 PCF

rofl.

Great

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

In IDF:

5 UMP, 4 Greens, 2 PS, 1 PCF

rofl.

Come on Les Verts, you can knock that extra seat off the UMP!

Ouf, the last one could be hard to catch.

Mouhahaa, Marine Le Pen striking "home" too.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

C'mon Greenies!

UMP 28%
PS 16.8%
Greens 16.2%
MoDem 8.5%

Yeah. C'mon Greenies, C'mon...

Would have things to answer on fab analysis but I wait later.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Corrine Lepage saying she could quit Modem if its doesn't change its working. Will Bayrou change or continue on his line??...More at 10pm...when he'll speak.