Who do you support in the Georgia/Russia conflict?

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No one, I just watch.

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The Ossetian people. And thus no one who is, directly or indirectly, a party to the conflict (so, not the governments of South Ossetia, Georgia, Abkhazia, Russia, or the United States of America... I'm sure I'm forgetting to list some people.)

Couldn't have said it better (hence the signature). Though I admit that I'm less sympathetic to the Georgian government than the Georgian one.

When I personally say "No one". To me, that's population included. I consider that a population is always responsible of what is the regime by which it is led. No matter the regime, democracy, absolute monarchy, the worst dictatorship you can imagine, etc. That's maybe easy to say, hard to hear, but I strongly believe in it, I also think it is an optimistic point of view.

Then, I haven't the universal compassion, even if TV news would like to make born it in me. I don't know if that makes me a "bad guy", but I assume it. I tend to be stoic most of the time ("I just watch").

This said, even if I don't support the populations, if I consider they have some responsibilities in what they live, and if I don't have the universal compassion, I wish them the best.

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The people of a democratic system have the power of opinion, the way governments react to situations will always take into affect that opinion.

Sure the way governments react to situations will always take into affect the opinion of the population, but I think that this works for every regime, not only democracy, and it seems that it is so true that all dictatorships used and uses something you must know which is...propaganda. Because every regime know that the opinion of the population has the power and so that it is the population which, at the end, can always have the power on the regime.

Something which goes in the sense of what I said before. That's always the population which is responsible of what is its regime, and if the regime succeed in manipulating the population that's because at one time the population has let it done...

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Guys, look at this at a way bigger picture. Russia, dosen't like America, Iran doens't like America. How do you get these two counties boards to touch or come so to it so Russia can give nukes to Iran. Oh well look at here, Georgia, we take them over and Russia and Iran are very close to touching.

Ever heard of the Caspian Sea?

Right. You should open an atlas (the book) before writing, or try on the net there are lot of possibilities to see maps...

Euh, do you think nukes are toys we share with someone just because we don't like an other one?!? Here are some nukes, but please, don't use it against me...

Euh, we're effectively speaking about nukes...

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Guys, look at this at a way bigger picture. Russia, dosen't like America, Iran doens't like America. How do you get these two counties boards to touch or come so to it so Russia can give nukes to Iran. Oh well look at here, Georgia, we take them over and Russia and Iran are very close to touching.

Ever heard of the Caspian Sea?

Right. You should open an atlas (the book) before writing, or try on the net there are lot of possibilities to see maps...

Euh, do you think nukes are toys we share with someone just because we don't like an other one?!? Here are some nukes, but please, don't use it against me...

Euh, we're effectively speaking about nukes...

Yes, but I not saying that is why Russia is trying to take over Georgia. Its just something to keep in mind.

And me, if I think that Russians and Iranians can follow certain common ways to bother, or more, US/West/NATO, I think that this donation of nukes between the 2 countries is not to keep in mind, in order to make some place in your mind for other things which could be really more probable...

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lol @ Josh wanting us to go to war with Russia over a tiny province in a tiny nation like Georgia.

The only way I see any strong U.S., UN, or NATO involvement is if the Russians completely annex Georgia and decide "that felt good, it's time we take back all the Soviet states."  Although such an act probably wouldn't require much intervention as the Russian people would probably be so against Putin in that situation that there'd be a revolution.

The last sentence is ironical...?

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lol @ Josh wanting us to go to war with Russia over a tiny province in a tiny nation like Georgia.

The only way I see any strong U.S., UN, or NATO involvement is if the Russians completely annex Georgia and decide "that felt good, it's time we take back all the Soviet states."  Although such an act probably wouldn't require much intervention as the Russian people would probably be so against Putin in that situation that there'd be a revolution.

The last sentence is ironical...?

Indeed it is.

Revolutions following misguided expansion attempts by power-hungry leaders are a time-honored Russian tradition.

OK, luckily it is some irony, because it would be very risky to bet on this tradition here I think...

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The nation's military power being spread thin like that in war could weaken Putin's power and lead to a regime change in Moscow.

Personally, this is a bet that I wouldn't take!

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lol @ Josh wanting us to go to war with Russia over a tiny province in a tiny nation like Georgia.

The only way I see any strong U.S., UN, or NATO involvement is if the Russians completely annex Georgia and decide "that felt good, it's time we take back all the Soviet states."  Although such an act probably wouldn't require much intervention as the Russian people would probably be so against Putin in that situation that there'd be a revolution.

The last sentence is ironical...?

Indeed it is.

Revolutions following misguided expansion attempts by power-hungry leaders are a time-honored Russian tradition.

OK, luckily it is some irony, because it would be very risky to bet on this tradition here I think...

As I said, it require Russia going crazy and retaking the former Soviet republics; spreading out their military and requiring NATO action (which is pretty much a given, especially if the nations who Russia goes after include NATO members Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania).

The nation's military power being spread thin like that in war could weaken Putin's power and lead to a regime change in Moscow.

The nation's military power being spread thin like that in war could weaken Putin's power and lead to a regime change in Moscow.

Personally, this is a bet that I wouldn't take!

It seems I misunderstood yesterday night, sorry (it was about midnight, was tired).

Now that I'm well awoken:

I think that on the more or less long term a conflict could directly militarily oppose West and Russia, and if yes and if the Russian military is weakened I effectively think that, yes, a change of regime could occur, and I even think it would be to go to a West-friendly regime (unrealistic? I maintain). Just one point on which I tend to disagree, I would be surprised it happens during a war scenario like the one you proposed...