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Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]
tsionebreicruoc
Junior Chimp
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« on: July 10, 2008, 05:04:05 AM »

Well

First I don't think that here there is a fear to speak about Iran, several threads have been opened on it last time and well fed, just watch the pages before.

Then, my thought on Iran's attitude, Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, etc. I think the tactic of Iran is to never open the war, and I think they will never do it. I think they wanna victimize themselves, I think they want to be attacked to then open the fire, I think they don't want to be the aggressor. And I think this is important in what they think concerning the legitimation of their attitude, I also think their religious believes is important in how they drive their attitude.

In this sense, what do they do? They provoke, again and again, Israel and the US, and until now it seems to work, one of the both could attack Iran, and Iran will be happy.

I also think that the Iranian administration gives different roles to their leaders always in the sense to play with its "adversaries". Ahmadinejad makes the bad guy, who provokes, hoping for an attack against the country and so Khamenei will just have to say we're attacked, we must retaliate.

Wanna avoid a war with Iran?

Let them talk and test their missile, don't come in their provocation game, otherwise, it could be possible that very heavy consequences would have to be assumed...

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Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]
tsionebreicruoc
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,385
France


« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 10:57:51 AM »

Israel is trying to disable Iran's nuclear capabilities in a pre-emptive strike. However, they only manage to hit about half of Iran's installations. Iran retaliates by firing some nuclear missiles at Israel. The Israelis respond by using their own nuclear weapons on Iran.

As a result, the oil price is at least tripled and a global economic depression ensues. In the economic and political chaos that follows, Russia turns ulta-nationalist and decides to invade Eastern Europe. NATO fights backs. Russia launches its missiles against the United States.

OMG, it's the end of the world!!!!!!!!!!!! You better buy duct tape!

Once again, I think Iran will never attack and never have nuclear weapons, they just provoke.

Once again, I think the only attack could come from Israel/US.

I think that if the slightest Israeli/US rocket falls on the Iranian ground, we will see a huge Iranian retaliation by missiles with everything they can touch. More of that, Mahdi army could put the mess in Irak, Hezbollah could do a 2006 war again, Hamas, I don't know, they seem to be interested in machines of construction these last times... Syria, I don't know too. But to me, Iran for sure will make fireworks on everything they can touch in the Middle East if they are touched by only a rocket.

Then, after it, what's about world economy? I also think, like the preceding comment, that a big crash could happen, just wonder to the price of oil if Iran make fireworks all over middle east and that's enough to justify this thought.

Still like the preceding comment an aggression of Iran by Israel/USWest could make grow tensions that already exist around the world between West and its "adversaries", of course I speak about Russia and China. If you add on this a huge economic depression, there would be no problem for such countries to come in the war, it would be a logic of war economy, what you can no more have because the normal economy no more works, you take it by force. And if more of that you don't really like those who opened the war and that you would like to put them down, there are still less problems. Still concerning the preceding comment, maybe it would lead Russia to ultra-nationalist, but I don't think it is necessary for it to come in war against West. I use to say West because of course Europe will be with US, they just can't choose.

To finish, what did you say, end of the world?

Hmm, I'm not sure, I think it could create a very different world, but not "the end", which is anyway something I don't want.
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Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]
tsionebreicruoc
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,385
France


« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 10:23:03 AM »

My point is that even if fascist and theocrats like jmfcst have their way, people keep fighting for their lives and dignity, and that history shows us that as brutal, ruthless, and powerful the Empire is, resistance is possible.

Resistance is possible...

Which one?

Russia...?
China...?
Al-qaeda...?

Are these ones the resistances you promote against something brutal and ruthless?

Let us be serious, power always means "brutal and ruthless", the opposite is the exception. Principles, rules, are just here or to give an orientation to the brutality of the power or to attenuate it...
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Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]
tsionebreicruoc
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,385
France


« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 04:12:56 PM »

My point is that even if fascist and theocrats like jmfcst have their way, people keep fighting for their lives and dignity, and that history shows us that as brutal, ruthless, and powerful the Empire is, resistance is possible.

Resistance is possible...

Which one?

Russia...?
China...?
Al-qaeda...?

Are these ones the resistances you promote against something brutal and ruthless?

None of the above.  I was thinking of Iranians who brought about a successful revolution in 1979, ending their country's subjection to the Empire.

And so, you, you like everything what is done against "the Empire", am I right?
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Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]
tsionebreicruoc
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,385
France


« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 04:22:55 PM »

To kick start Armageddon?  Because the Jews told us to?  Imperialsim?  Bush has a hard on for war?  The defense industry is tricking us?

Oil.

Let's imagine US target Iran, win, and make a friend state of it. Wouldn't a war with it have just put the world economy down (to speak politely), because of the price of oil which would reach the sky (by rockets!)? US would have won Iranian oil but would have lost world economy. Is that a stupid reflexion? If ever no one would have it or would care about it at White House we can expect for a hard future to come...
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