No. Simply no. Boots on the ground is the last thing we should do. Hell, we ought to drop the big one before we actually deploy ground troops (and no, we shouldn't do that either). This is an Arab fight. If the French and Russians want to fight it, good for them, but I don't think ISIS is officially our enemy until they strike us first on our own soil.
...this sorta already happened and I would say chopping our citizens heads off and raping women would make someone our enemy. Further, if 9/11 taught us something it was that you dont wait around to get popped in the f#cking mouth. You take the fight to the enemy. Now Iraq taught us that occupying land is a fool' errand.
How do you propose we beat ISIS? We can go in, shoot all their recruits, blow up their camps, and leave. Then what? This is a death cult we are dealing with. They are like cockroaches. They will just keep coming back. Taking the fight to them is exactly what they want. We ought to secure our own borders and let the Middle East sort itself out. The Iranians, Russians, and Syrian regime should just solve this problem on their own.
French army is already dealing with that and is...
alone.
There isn't a rule about interventions, only a total variety of situations which have to be differently treated.
Should have admired the speed pick-ups heading toward Bamako full of that former glorious Kadafi heavy war weapons? What a wonderful spot to have a control on both Sahara and Sahel if so.
Should have we just taken bets about whether Centrafrique would have turned into one confessional Rwanda? At one point it seemed...f**king
close.
And there too, it's not about 'the US' to declare war here, as far as I know there is something called Paris in Texas, but, well...
Don't worry, wait a bit, Hollande has just planned a little 'war path tour', gonna meet Obama in Washington (26/11 iirc) and Putin in Moscow (28/11 iirc) soon, in order to 'plan some things' maybe...
Yesterday, it was already kinda odd to see Putin publicly call the French 'an ally that gonna join us' about the Charles de Gaulle reaching Syria soon.
I'm sure Putin looooves being a bit on 'the normal cool side with the normal budies' for once...
Someone in the media made a rather relevant comparison: 'it's like allying with Stalin against Hitler, shouldn't have we done that?'
Hey America liked it, didn't it??
That being said, even if you manage a big global coalition, which would have different kinds of Muslims countries from all around the world, backed by the UN, in order to wipe out IS on the ground and to then reorganize a new political scene for Syria, thanks to Russians eventually pushing Assad to accept it, and this being done
only under an UN supervision, and this in the name Universal Declarations for Human Rights, which is the philosophical base of what's supposed to be the most recognized international organization for international right, the UN, (and which moreover obviously originally comes from France, back to the point!).
Even if you manage that kinda 'best case dream scenario', then:
1stIt would, by far, mainly be led by 'Christian countries', US, Russia, France-Europe, and in IS mythology, there is something that says that a big battle would take place between their proud armies and all Christian armies, somewhere in the north Syria, and overall it could excite still more the Muslims vs Christian things amongst the local populations, making a quite harsh and nasty guerilla eventually that could eventually last long enough.
Remember Falluja?
The proud strong US army only managed to handle it through that f**king brilliant white phosphore bombs. Iirc now about 1/2 babies there born handicaped now. Kudos.
And the IS military is in big part constitued of some very strong Iraqi generals, brilliantly ousted by the US bacause belonging to Baas, and which then decided to join Jihadists, so they can well benefit of their big experience...
Far to be only excited guys there.
2ndEven if it happens quite well and fast, if the guys feels they lose ground, they won't wait to be killed/captured till the last one.
They would try to set the mess all over Mid-East and eventually further in all Muslim and in all Western countries they can touch, through terrorrism, through pro cells like we saw in Paris but also thanks to any young guy that feels that has to 'stand up for the Caliphate' and attack whatever he can attack (kinda like the stabbing wave in Israel). But also through trying to escape in some neighbouring countries wherre they could try to make the same mess amongst local, populations, trying to turn those into allies or hostages, trying to take new cities to hide.
And some countries around there don't really show as quite safe to say the least, thinking about Jordan (which is, well, bordering Palestine), Lebanon, and well the very big piece of cake which is at risk for a while now I think, which also gives a looot of young guys to IS, which is also f**king appealing to IS symbolically, and about which I let you imagine...all...the possible brilliant geopolitical and economical consequences if ever all of this makes some mess on the more or less long run in this country, KSA.
Then in any case, it's kinda a
really really really f**king f**king f**king situation.
And then, unlike the Stalin comparison, it looks more like a 'WW1 thing' than a WW2 one, that is a '1st round', lol, it would be a 'World War against IS'.
I'd say that you can effectively reasonably imagine a US-Russia-France/Europe taking place in a more or less close future, even with UN back (well, why would Chinese oppose) in orderr to oust the IS, eventually even on the ground, severral politiciabs spoke about that here.
All belongs to that little man...
aww, so tough...
Moreover, it would kinda be a kind of revenge if France manages to bring something to Syria.
Hollande administration always took...very bad...the US withdrawal caused by Obama call to Congress on September 2013 while French jets were ready to go to Syria in the coming night, and you always had Valls, Fabius, and even Hollande, reminding it when they could.
In any case, the title of that thread would be pretty irrelevant.
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