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Question: Who was #1?
#1
Vladimir Lenin
 
#2
Joseph Stalin
 
#3
Nikita Khrushchev
 
#4
Leonid Brezhnev
 
#5
Yuri Andropov
 
#6
Konstantin Chernenko
 
#7
Mikhail Gorbachev
 
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Author Topic: Best Leader of the Soviet Union  (Read 14844 times)
dead0man
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« on: September 12, 2008, 08:40:09 PM »

Well, I wanted to get some answers in regard of who was the best leader FOR the Soviet Union. 
Maybe you should have worded it that way then?  And even then it's not clear.  Are we talking what's best for the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union or what's best for the ENTITY that is the Soviet Union.  If it's for the people, then the answer is clearly Gorbachev.  If it's for the entity, then I don't konw.

Anyway, it certainly couldn't be Stalin, he killed 40 million Soviets.  That wouldn't make him the best FOR the Soviet Union, entity or people.  One would think Lenin would be a good choice, but he was just as big of a monster as was Stalin, he just wasn't as good at it.

I really can't see how it can't be Gorbachev unless you're only criteria for "best" is keeping the Soviet Union afloat.
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dead0man
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 11:20:50 PM »

I'm not sure how causing one of the greatest famines in recorded history to happen on your watch AND because of your policies was all that great for the Soviet Union.  Neither were the millions of Soviets he had killed in Gulags (not the kind you find in Cuba) or the millions he had executed because they disagreed with him or the millions that died when he forced different peoples to move around his empire like he was playing some board game.  Stalin was almost certainly the worst leader of the Soviet Union.
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dead0man
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 09:18:59 AM »

Hey, they're not communist!  More of an Oligarchy.
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dead0man
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 12:45:55 PM »

..and you can't talk about Stalin without mentioning the millions he had killed.  I've noticed Stalin apologists like to ignore that part.
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dead0man
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 02:48:30 PM »

Neither of us like to see innocents suffer.

Preston on the other hand.....
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