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Question: should middle schoolers be able to wear "Lets go Brandon" shirts at school?
#1
yes, of course
 
#2
yeah, probably
 
#3
no, because you shouldn't advertise politics in school
 
#4
no, because you shouldn't advertise politics that are not approved by the school
 
#5
you just don't get it dead0
 
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dead0man
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« on: April 27, 2023, 07:23:40 AM »

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Today, two students represented by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression sued their Michigan school district for viewpoint discrimination after they were forbidden from wearing apparel critical of President Joe Biden.

“Criticism of the president is core political speech protected by the First Amendment,” said FIRE attorney Conor Fitzpatrick. “Whether it’s a Biden sticker, ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ sweatshirt, or gay pride T-shirt, schools can’t pick and choose which political beliefs students can express.”

In Feb. 2022, two Tri County Middle School students wore sweatshirts to school with the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon,” a political slogan critical of President Biden with origins in a more profane chant. Even though the political slogan is widely used — multiple members of Congress used it during floor speeches — an assistant principal and a teacher ordered the boys to remove the sweatshirts. However, administrators allowed students to wear apparel with other political messages, including gay-pride-themed hoodies.

The incident is part of a pattern of political favoritism by the school district. When the school district relaxed the dress code for field day, a school administrator ordered a student to stop wearing a Trump flag as a cape, but permitted other students to wear gay pride flags in the same manner.

The school district is wrongly relying on a policy that prohibits “profane” clothing to censor this particular message, but FIRE's lawsuit argues that ordering the students to remove the “Let's Go Brandon” sweatshirts violates the First Amendment.

“The slogan exists as a way to express an anti-Biden message without using profanity,” explained Fitzpatrick. “A public school district cannot censor speech just because it might cause someone to think about a swear word.”
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dead0man
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2023, 09:27:02 AM »

I don't really see politics as being a major source of bullying at school? Maybe things have changed since I was in middle school, but I at that time I was both overtly political and a semi-frequent target of bullying, yet the former never factored into the latter in any way.

Ordinarily it wouldn't be. But if political symbolism - especially of the sort described here; cheap slogans and such - takes hold in a red team/blue team/insert-other-colour-here team sort of way, then the risk of it blowing up quite nastily in that way would be fairly high.
schools are for learning, perhaps they can use it as an opportunity to learn to disagree with someone politically without screaming at them or attempting violence at them.  It would be nice to get back to there.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2023, 09:29:38 AM »

Obviously. But any consequences arising from that with regards to other students are entirely on them.
I hope the consequences are of the "well I'm not going to be friends with Beth anymore, she should never make fun of our Dark Lord and Savior Biden" and not of the "lets get her guys, we're going to beat some tolerance into you!" variety.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2023, 01:33:52 PM »

No but they should be allowed to wear a shirt that says Trump 2024 or I hate Joe Biden or Make America Great Again. The Let’s Go Brandon slogan is a substitute for the F word.
but it's not the F word.  Should all euphemisms for the F word be banned?
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2023, 10:26:28 AM »

No but they should be allowed to wear a shirt that says Trump 2024 or I hate Joe Biden or Make America Great Again. The Let’s Go Brandon slogan is a substitute for the F word.
but it's not the F word.  Should all euphemisms for the F word be banned?

Yes?
Yes I think so. It’s not appropriate for school. I’d also have said the same thing to one of the “Buck Fush” shirts.
what should the punishment be for saying "Lets Go Brandon"?  Is it the same for saying "frigging" or "mother trucker"?  What about "shucks" or "dern"?
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2023, 08:10:04 PM »

this website bans profanity so we remain safe for schools, should the title of this thread with a profanity in it be edited?
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