Fritz Election tracker

[Meeker]

I think Fritz's math is a little off. When a candidate is eliminated, and their votes need to be redistributed, isn't it done at standard face value and not some sort of transfer value? For instance, when Sewer Socialist was eliminated he had 1.08 votes - 1 from Lewis and 0.08 from Ebowed. So shouldn't afleitch have then gained 0.08 from Ebowed and Jas a full vote from Lewis as opposed to each afleitch and Jas receiving 0.54 of a vote? I don't know for sure, but that was my understanding.

[Meeker]

I'm re-running the math under my version... will post when finished.

EDIT: Lewis also preferenced Jas higher than Sewer Socialist, so his vote never should've been counted there in the first place.

[Meeker]

This is what I think the results are as far as my understanding of the math is...


Total voters: 70, Quota: 12, last vote: Smash

Round I:

RowanBrandon	16	(FallenMorgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishConservative, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	13	(Maxque, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai Blue, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, XPostFactor99, Antonio V, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash)
Fritz	12	(SewerSocialist, Sensei, dc_united, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob,RosettaStoned, jfern, phknrocket1k, jokerman)
Franzl	9	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realisticidealist, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose88, GM3PRP, Purple State)
Afleitch	6	(Hashemite, Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes)
Jas	6	(Xahar, Jas, Lewis, Sibboleth, ilikeverin, Vepres)
SPC	5	(tmthforu94, Mechaman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H)
Duke	3	(benconstine, Mint, SPC)
Sewer Socialist	0

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue, Fritz are elected and their surpluses redistributed.


Round II

RowanBrandon	12
Marokai Blue	12
Frtiz	12
Franzl	9.077	+0.077 (opebo)
SPC	9	+4.00 (FallenMorgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishConservative, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Afleitch	6.77	+0.77 (MaxQue, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash)
Jas	6
AHDuke99	3
Sewer Socialist	0.077	+0.077 (Ebowed)
Exhausted	0.077	+0.077 (Flyers)

Sewer Socialist and Duke are eliminated and their votes are redistributed.


Round III

RowanBrandon	12
Marokai Blue	12
Frtiz	12
SPC	11	+2.00 (Ben, Duke)
Franzl	10.077	+1.00 (Mint)
Afleitch	6.847	+0.077 (Ebowed)
Jas	6
Exhausted	0.077

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed.


Round IV

RowanBrandon	12
Marokai Blue	12
Frtiz	12
SPC	12	+1.00 (Vepres)
Franzl	11.077	+1.00 (Lewis)
Afleitch	10.847	+4.00 (Xahar, Jas, Al, ilikeverin)
Exhausted	0.077

SPC is elected. He has no surplus to redistribute. Franzl is declared elected by default.


Elected:

#1: RowanBrandon
#2: Marokai Blue
#3: Fritz
#4: SPC
#5: Franzl

ETA: Franzl's vote doesn't change anything; just gives him a larger total in the final count. And of course I'm sure by morning everyone will have pointed out how flawed my count is

[Meeker]

So fezzy's vote needs to be thrown out - what about Einzige's? Does his rant constitute campaigning?

[Meeker]

Potentially epic RPP fail

[Meeker]

Please hurry up !!! I can't bear the waiting to see if Fritz gets elected...

It'll take a while. This is not a simple calculation.

Polls close at 11:22 PM EST, about how many voters are left?

This election is held in accordance with Article V of the Constitution, the Proportional Representation Act, and the Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act (as amended).  The  voting booth opens at 12:00am August 21st, 2009 and closes at 11:59pm August 23rd, 2009.

Oh, didn't see that part. Still though, there could be a last-minute voting spree.

where did you get 11:22 from?

It's when you posted the booth.

[Meeker]

In the middle of an update...

[Meeker]

Total votes: 89, Quota: 15, Last vote: px75

Round I

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	15
Afleitch	11
Franzl	11
SPC	8
Duke	5
Jas	4
Sewer Socialist	2
EarlAW	1

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue and Fritz are declared elected. Their surpluses are redistributed (+1 for SPC, +0.75 for Afleitch, +0.125 for Sewer Socialist, +0.063 for Franzl, 0.063 is exhausted).


Round II

RowanBrandon	15
Marokai Blue	15
Fritz	15
Afleitch	11.75
Franzl	11.063
SPC	9
Duke	5
Jas	4
Sewer Socialist	2.125
EarlAW	1
Exhausted	0.063

EarlAW and Sewer Socialist are both eliminated. Their votes are redistributed (+3 for Jas, +0.125 for Afleitch).


Round III

RowanBrandon	15
Marokai Blue	15
Fritz	15
Afleitch	11.875
Franzl	11.063
SPC	9
Jas	7
Duke	5
Exhausted	0.063

Duke is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+4 for SPC, +1 for Franzl)


Round III

RowanBrandon	15
Marokai Blue	15
Fritz	15
SPC	13
Franzl	12.063
Afleitch	11.875
Jas	7
Exhausted	0.063

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+6 for Afleitch, +1 for SPC).


Round IV

RowanBrandon	15
Marokai Blue	15
Fritz	15
Afleitch	17.875
SPC	14
Franzl	12.063
Exhausted	0.063

Afleitch is declared elected and his surplus is redistributed...  f**ck it.

[Meeker]

Franzl would be elected under the current total. I just don't know exactly what the final margin between him and SPC would be.

[Meeker]

I still haven't voted... and you just made my decisions quite a bit easier.

[Meeker]

Total votes: 93, Quota: 16, Last vote: Lunar

Round I

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	16
Franzl	14
Afleitch	11
SPC	8
Duke	5
Jas	4
Sewer Socialist	2
EarlAW	1

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue and Fritz are declared elected.


Round II

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	16
Franzl	14
Afleitch	11
SPC	8
Duke	5
Jas	4
Sewer Socialist	2
EarlAW	1

EarlAW and Sewer Socialist are both eliminated and their votes redistributed (+3 for Jas).


Round III

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	16
Franzl	14
Afleitch	11
SPC	8
Jas	7
Duke	5

Duke is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+4 for SPC and +1 for Franzl).


Round IV

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	16
Franzl	15
SPC	12
Afleitch	11
Jas	7

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+6 for Afleitch, +1 for SPC).


Round V

RowanBrandon	16
Marokai Blue	16
Fritz	16
Afleitch	17
Franzl	15
SPC	13

Afleitch has reached the quota and is declared elected. Franzl is elected without a quota.

Elected:

#1: RowanBrandon
#2: Marokai Blue
#3: Fritz
#4: Afleitch
#5: Franzl

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That ended up being remarkably even and simple in the end.

[Meeker]

PACIFIC REGIONAL RESULTS

Governor

Meeker	19	95%
NOTA	1	5%

Lt. Governor

Ebowed	15	65%
Hamilton	7	30%
NOTA	1	4%

[Meeker]

Total votes: 93, Quota: 16, Last vote: Lunar

Round I

RowanBrandon	16	(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	16	(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz	16	(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl	14	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch	11	(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC	8	(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Duke	5	(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Jas	4	(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres)
Sewer Socialist	2	(Lewis, EarlAW)
EarlAW	1	(Jas)

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue and Fritz are declared elected.


Round II

RowanBrandon	16	(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	16	(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz	16	(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl	14	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch	11	(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC	8	(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Duke	5	(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Jas	4	(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres)
Sewer Socialist	2	(Lewis, EarlAW)
EarlAW	1	(Jas)

EarlAW and Sewer Socialist are both eliminated and their votes redistributed (+3 for Jas (Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)).


Round III

RowanBrandon	16	(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	16	(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz	16	(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl	14	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch	11	(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC	8	(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Jas	7	(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)
Duke	5	(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)

Duke is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+4 for SPC (Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke) and +1 for Franzl (Mint)).


Round IV

RowanBrandon	16	(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	16	(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz	16	(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl	15	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar, Mint)
SPC	12	(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee, Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Afleitch	11	(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
Jas	7	(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+6 for Afleitch (Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas), +1 for SPC (Vepres)).


Round V

RowanBrandon	16	(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue	16	(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz	16	(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Afleitch	17	(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield, Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)
Franzl	15	(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar, Mint)
SPC	13	(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee, Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke, Vepres)

Afleitch has reached the quota and is declared elected. Franzl is elected without a quota.

Elected:

#1: RowanBrandon
#2: Marokai Blue
#3: Fritz
#4: Afleitch
#5: Franzl

[Meeker]

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot.

I don't believe Antonio ever got an answer to his question.  Does anyone have an answer to this?

When Jas gets back from vacation he'll be able to explain it better than anyone.

[Meeker]

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot.

I don't believe Antonio ever got an answer to his question.  Does anyone have an answer to this?

When Jas gets back from vacation he'll be able to explain it better than anyone.

Why does it have to be so confusing? Do we know who won?

The final results are posted literally two posts before yours.