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« on: June 22, 2022, 02:03:57 AM »

They view them mostly as trans people. So the actual question is, "why are Republicans so obsesser with trans people right now"? The answer is, society in the last 5 to 10 years has really started moving forward with trans rights, and the majority of them are totally against trans rights and trans existence.
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2022, 04:03:18 PM »

If something is not happening outside a few bad apples than you should have no problem banning it cause by your definition not much would change. By calling the side who wants to ban it bigots then by definition you are implying your side has something to hide which is why the spin of "This isnt happening but you are a bigot if you oppose it" has failed miserably

Banning drag queen events would violate the First Amendment.

Sure if the ban applied to adults too. I think Porn for example should be banned for anyone under 18 as well

Porn is already banned for people under 18, isn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2022, 03:05:12 AM »

Hi.

What would you rather kids were exposed to? A drag queen reading stories.

Or this?



Seeing cops help bigots to terrorize trans and/or drag people in public is an extremely effective way of normalizing hate and bigotry in a child, and is actually faster and more effective than trying to instill those values in the child all by yourself.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2022, 09:55:51 PM »

Drag queens should be banned from public libraries and schools. Thank god I live in a community where this would never happen.

Banned on what specific grounds? How would you word the legal text?
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2022, 02:42:55 AM »

If something is not happening outside a few bad apples than you should have no problem banning it cause by your definition not much would change. By calling the side who wants to ban it bigots then by definition you are implying your side has something to hide which is why the spin of "This isnt happening but you are a bigot if you oppose it" has failed miserably
Expanding the enforcement powers of the state as a solution in search of a problem to satisfy internet trolls and bigots like yourself is bad actually. "Well probably this bill won't actually have much practical effect" is not an argument in favor of passing a bill

Well if you think stuff like CRT should be used in public education and there should be no pushback well then you should at least support school vouchers. Otherwise the government interfering in public education is a proper role of government since they are literally in charge of it

Very very few people are advocating for woke intersectionality in public education. It's mostly a nothingburger that the GOP is using to whip voters into a fear-anger frenzy.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2022, 08:12:30 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2022, 07:12:35 AM by Jobu Tupaki »

Drag queens should be banned from public libraries and schools. Thank god I live in a community where this would never happen.

Banned on what specific grounds? How would you word the legal text?
Easy

Defund any public library that has “drag queen story time”.


But never mind that.  PresMike thinks men playing dress up is a bannable offense because he thinks it's weird and icky, so fck all the poor people in that community too.
I love libraries. I don't own a print so when I need to print or fax something I go to the local library. Or Officemax.


Say goodbye to that once your library is defunded by Republicans.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2022, 03:09:06 PM »

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You have to pick your battles.

Would you rather have a Democratic Party that regularly condemns whatever the next weird leftwing dysfunction of the day is but ultimately never does anything to stop it, or a party that publicly defends unpopular cultural phenomena and then goes on to regularly lose elections to deranged conservative Republicans? The past 48 hours (including Clarence Thomas's admitted eagerness to allow the criminalization of homosexuality!) have been as clear an example as can be that we don't need a Democratic Party that validates people's lived experiences, we need one that wins.

You're making sense logically but you're missing or downplaying some important aspects:

A lot of the Dem LGBTQ stuff is, as you correctly charactrrized it, Democrats DEFENDING "unpopular cultural phenomena". They aren't obsessed with shoving it down your throat, but they're gonna stand for civil rights under attack and be anti-bigotry. This is defense not offense. Perhaps an even more important point is that this "unpopular cultural phenomenon" is likey to get more and more accepted every year and eventually be mostly accepted by society, just like gay people, interracial marriage, atheism and gay marriage. It's more along the lines of "it's a long trrm battle and we feel a moral obligation to fight". What you're advocating for now translates in the past into "don't fight for desegregation even though segregation is immoral, because the issue isn't popular enough yet". Politics isn't JUST winning and losing. It's advocacy for justice as well. You can't entirely remove morality from the equation and just look at polling data.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2022, 06:44:35 AM »


I've also made it clear that regardless of partisan politics I think that wokeness is terrible and destructive for the country, so of course I want to see its influence gone.

People here know that I'm fairly anti-woke (within reason), but Republican policies are 100x worse for America than Woke Twitter. It isn't even close.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2022, 03:10:38 PM »


I've also made it clear that regardless of partisan politics I think that wokeness is terrible and destructive for the country, so of course I want to see its influence gone.

People here know that I'm fairly anti-woke (within reason), but Republican policies are 100x worse for America than Woke Twitter. It isn't even close.

I know, that's why I'm so disgusted when college-educated people ruin the left's reputation and risk losing elections to Republicans just so they can die on the hill of woke BS.

Define?

15 years ago, equal marriage was seen as 'PC bs'. A vote loser. A distraction.

And yet we still managed to get there, didn't we?

We got there by ignoring your advice to let Republicans control the narrative.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2022, 10:14:42 AM »

Imagine being such a sensitive snowflake that you are offended by a dude in a dress reading to kids.

There are certain things that are inappropriate and should not be funded through taxpayer money

Explain to me, what the fundamental difference is between a man in a dress reading a book to kids and a woman in a dress reading a book to kids? What specifically makes it inappropriate, other than men usually not wearing dresses?

Drag Queen is not the same as a costume

Just so everybody is 100% clear, the reason the Republicans like OSR who aren't blatant bigots hate this is that they genuinely believe that society forcing cisgenderism and brainwashing kids with it is objectively morally good, and anything else is bad. They typically equate "not forcing cisgenderism on kids" with "encouraging kids to become trans". In other words, just treating kids like kids without trying to push them into a certain gender mindset is completely and totally unacceptable for Republicans. You MUST do your part to raise a generation of cisgender kids, or you're an enemy of society.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2022, 10:54:03 AM »


Just so everybody is 100% clear, the reason the Republicans like OSR who aren't blatant bigots hate this is that they genuinely believe that society forcing cisgenderism and brainwashing kids with it is objectively morally good, and anything else is bad. They typically equate "not forcing cisgenderism on kids" with "encouraging kids to become trans". In other words, just treating kids like kids without trying to push them into a certain gender mindset is completely and totally unacceptable for Republicans. You MUST do your part to raise a generation of cisgender kids, or you're an enemy of society.

No, your side encourages kids to become trans and calls it "not forcing cisgenderism on kids," which is an absurd concept since boys generally don't need to be forced to be boys, nor do girls need to be forced to be girls.

You are wrong in 99.99% of cases, and you won't have proof to back up your claims. Telling kids that it's okay to be who they feel they are isn't the same as taking kids who aren't questioning these kinds of things and pushing them in a certain direction.
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2022, 04:27:16 PM »


But your side does do that. Or, wants to do that, if they're not able to already. Your side has said in plain English that that is a goal of theirs.


Outside of a few extremists on Twitter, and Peebs a few posts above me, 98 or 99% of leftists do not do that or want that done. This is a fringe minority that the right wing is hyper-focused on. Most people just want gay kids to be gay and sraight kids to be straight, same for cis and trans, without schools trying to push them to be any particular way.


There's never any mechanism for selectively giving attention to the (tiny minority of) kids who are confused. It's just, "drag story hour is for everyone!" and "Pride parades with twigs and berries hanging out are for everyone!"


Kids being exposed to Pride parades and drag queens once in a while doesn't push them to be gay or trans. If your kid is occasionally exposed to jewish people, that isn't "pushing your kid to be jewish". You seem to believe that kids need to be sheltered from the real world or else they'll all want to be gay and trans. That's not really how it works, but even if it did, that isn't pushing a kid in a certain direction.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2022, 04:57:11 PM »


The stuff I say about what goes on in schools does not come from Fox News it comes from multiple people I know who are teachers .

However it's anecdotal, and there's no guarantee that it's representative of your whole city, much less state or country, nor free from the biases of whoever told the stories to you.

Well then you should have no problem banning certain things from being done in public schools then . If it doesn’t happen or is extremely rare then banning it wouldn’t change much so there is no harm in banning it .


You are correct in theory, but in practice, Republican governors will use extremely wide definitions of each and every word they can in the law to silence or intimidate gay teachers. There ARE things that I would be willing to support banning if they were becoming an actual problem.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2022, 05:51:23 PM »

Well then you should have no problem banning certain things from being done in public schools then . If it doesn’t happen or is extremely rare then banning it wouldn’t change much so there is no harm in banning it .

Why would we ban something that isn't bad?

He's talking about teachers trying to brainwash kids into intersectional CRT / feminism.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2022, 05:58:55 PM »

Well then you should have no problem banning certain things from being done in public schools then . If it doesn’t happen or is extremely rare then banning it wouldn’t change much so there is no harm in banning it .

Why would we ban something that isn't bad?

He's talking about teachers trying to brainwash kids into intersectional CRT / feminism.

Ah.

Why would we ban something that isn't bad?

I'm sure Republicans would paint it as "too woke" across the board. If I'm being honest, a lot of intersectional discussion is too woke for my liking, and a lot of Dem voters would agree with me. That isn't to say that every single take and discussion on intersectionality is "too woke". Realistically, kids don't need to learn intersectionality at school IMO, unless it's just a simple and quick explaination of what it is. You can teach kids proper history, not whitewashed, as well as racism, sexism, faith-based discrimination and other forms of bigotry, and that'll probably be good enough without wading into intersectionality and pissing off every Republican in the country.
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