LGC 13.18 - Censure S019 Resolution - Passed

[S019]

May I just note that to “censor” would mean to somehow either request that the moderators discriminately infract my posts or that somehow my ability to post on this board would be restricted. I am going to humbly suggest that it is not the correct word.

[S019]

Anyways I object to the amendment, to the extent that I have expressed "sympathies," it was unserious poasting on Discord.

[S019]

Anyways I object to the amendment, to the extent that I have expressed "sympathies," it was unserious poasting on Discord.

Ah of course, now it's all a joke. I believe that you could make a serious case against censure but that isn't how you'd do it.

I said it was all a joke, but that is besides the point. I believe you can make a valid case against the fact that I have been silent on this issue on the forum, but absent any evidence of serious talk of "sympathies" such a proposition is laughable. Also, I evidently do not care that much about this, because if I did I wouldn't have made a relatively flippant and obnoxious remark over a minor grammatical error. Have a nice day!

[S019]

Anyways I object to the amendment, to the extent that I have expressed "sympathies," it was unserious poasting on Discord.

When a bully bullies someone and is being called out for it, he also says it was just a joke or some trolling.

Its no excuse, you should know better.

Nobody has been laughing about what you've done and how you've behaved the past 10 days, including your court case you started versus LT. We should be grateful for what LT has done, otherwise this mess and scheming from the right would still've continued.

Over the past 10 days, multiple people have been annoyed at you, have asked you to stop and you've ignored it over & over again, and continued your behavor.

I wouldn't have introduced this legislation if i didn't had some support over it across the spectrum, meaning that multiple people are done with you. You might be lucky that you still have some allies in LGC left. But i hope you learn something from this.

Aside of that, censuring doesn't lead to anything meaningful, it's the LGC showing publically that they disapprove of you. Even if this passes, nothing changes.

Look I don’t really care, I would’ve already resigned if I wouldn’t get some angry DMs for forcing a special election.

[S019]

Nay

[S019]

1. It was clearly explained. WB clarified it
2. Discord
3. He lives in NJ.
4. Incorrect
5. 4 people voted out of 5, that's not enough
6. Blame S019 for that.

We bring it to the courts unless you voluntarily withdraw your veto which I don't recognise.

1. In this thread, everyone sees a lack of explanation, and does not see a single quote from what S019 was accused of.
2. It was in a Discord conversation that is inaccessible to me. I don't know that conversation at all.
3. He is Ukrainian by origin.
4. I don't see your counterarguments.
5. 2 aye vs 3 non-aye.
6. This act would turn us into enemies of S019.


As to your not recognizing my right to veto, the Lincoln Constitution nonetheless recognizes such a right for me:

Article I. The Legislative Power
...
5. Every bill passed by the General Court shall, before it becomes law, be submitted to the judgment of the governor. If they approve of it, they should sign it and it will become law; but if they disapprove they may veto it, and it shall be returned to the General Court. If, after considering the objections of the governor, the General Court should by a two-thirds vote agree to pass the same bill, it shall become law regardless of the governor's objections. If the governor shall not act to sign or veto a bill, it shall become law seven (7) days after its adoption by the General Court. The Governor shall have the authority to submit revisions to passed legislation, if they deem fit, and return it to the legislature for reconsideration. If the redrafted bill is rejected by the General Court, and the original bill passed the General Court by a two-thirds margin, the original bill shall be sent to referendum. If the redrafted bill is rejected by the General Court, and the original bill passed by less than two-thirds, the Governor shall be compelled to sign or veto the original bill.

Article II. The Executive Power
...
3. The governor shall have the power to carry out all acts in association with the enforcement of the laws passed under this constitution; to command the militia in times of war; to appoint the heads of such departments which may be established by law; to issue pardons and reprieves for crimes committed under the laws of this region, which shall be permanent upon their issuance, though they shall have no power to pardon themselves; to appoint, in accordance with Article V of the constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, the associate justice of the circuit court of this region; and to approve, or veto, all acts passed by the General Court.

https://talkelections.org/AFEWIKI/index.php?title=Lincoln_Constitution

I am not Ukrainian by origin, I have the Ukrainian flag as a measure of solidarity with those fighting Putin's imperialist war. I am ethnically Indian, but I was born here and English is my first language. Also I would've voted No, but I forgot about this. The Discord conversations were not serious and I made that clear at the time.

[S019]

You can't do this after the bill was passed, I'm pretty sure.

[S019]

You can't do this after the bill was passed, I'm pretty sure.

If you insist we will go through the debate process again to get likely the same result. But we can keep this very simple by just agreeing to treat it as if we did do it again, without all that pain.

Well I would have voted if you do it again, but I would be fine if you record my vote as a NAY on this in addition to the previous vote result.

[S019]

Wait how is this going to be communicated through the channels?

Objection pending explanation

[S019]

Wait how is this going to be communicated through the channels?

Objection pending explanation

A permanent record will be retained in the Noticeboard and in the Vital Civic Information thread. Of course, this thread will also remain available to view.

That's fine, whatever, objection withdrawn