AMA Fuzzy Bear (approaching age 65 version)

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In your opinion, who was the best President of the last century? Which President do you believe was the most morally upright?

The most morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Herbert Hoover.

The least morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Bill Clinton, but I could be wrong.  We know about Clinton because he lived in an era where pols didn't keep secrets.

I'm curious, why Hoover over Eisenhower or Carter?

Eisenhower is my pick for the BEST President, but he had a wartime affair.  Hoover, whatever his shortcomings, was the most strait-laced President we have had, personally.

If you read the life story of Jimmy Carter, you will find an incredibly self-serving narcissist.  He's hid it well, but he's always been all about him. Everything about him has been opportunism.  He's not the worst; in fact, he's better than most of our Presidents in this regard.  But Carter has been a manipulator of his own image his whole political life.  So, no, he doesn't get the prize here.

I don’t think you could sum up why so many of us here don’t hold your opinions in high regard when you say this about Jimmy Carter of all people while worshiping Trump. Seriously this is next level lacking in self awareness

I've never said Trump wasn't a narcissist.  I've also not said that Trump was more moral, personally, than Jimmy Carter.  But it takes a degree of narcissism and lack of self-awareness for a guy like the 1972 Jimmy Carter to look at the 1972 contenders and conclude that he was better than all of them after a year and a half as Governor of Georgia.  He wasn't a bad person, but he was, indeed, over his head.  Trump was competent as President in ways Carter couldn't even imagine, let alone replicate.  And while I won't sign off on Trump's adultery prior to coming to office, the question was about conduct in office, and Trump behaved (as President) better than Clinton, JFK, FDR, and (quite possibly) LBJ.  At least in the area of adultery.

As for Tweets, what would Harry Truman have Tweeted if there were Twitter during his term?  He threatened to personally beat up a music critic who panned his daughter's performance at a concert.  What would LBJ have tweeted?  There needs to be a little realistic viewing of the big picture here.  No, I don't condone Trump's every Tweet, but I choose the entire Trump package over the entire Biden package or the entire Hillary package.

Trump was competent as President? what?

[S019]

In your opinion, who was the best President of the last century? Which President do you believe was the most morally upright?

The most morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Herbert Hoover.

The least morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Bill Clinton, but I could be wrong.  We know about Clinton because he lived in an era where pols didn't keep secrets.

I'm curious, why Hoover over Eisenhower or Carter?

Eisenhower is my pick for the BEST President, but he had a wartime affair.  Hoover, whatever his shortcomings, was the most strait-laced President we have had, personally.

If you read the life story of Jimmy Carter, you will find an incredibly self-serving narcissist.  He's hid it well, but he's always been all about him. Everything about him has been opportunism.  He's not the worst; in fact, he's better than most of our Presidents in this regard.  But Carter has been a manipulator of his own image his whole political life.  So, no, he doesn't get the prize here.

I don’t think you could sum up why so many of us here don’t hold your opinions in high regard when you say this about Jimmy Carter of all people while worshiping Trump. Seriously this is next level lacking in self awareness

I've never said Trump wasn't a narcissist.  I've also not said that Trump was more moral, personally, than Jimmy Carter.  But it takes a degree of narcissism and lack of self-awareness for a guy like the 1972 Jimmy Carter to look at the 1972 contenders and conclude that he was better than all of them after a year and a half as Governor of Georgia.  He wasn't a bad person, but he was, indeed, over his head.  Trump was competent as President in ways Carter couldn't even imagine, let alone replicate.  And while I won't sign off on Trump's adultery prior to coming to office, the question was about conduct in office, and Trump behaved (as President) better than Clinton, JFK, FDR, and (quite possibly) LBJ.  At least in the area of adultery.

As for Tweets, what would Harry Truman have Tweeted if there were Twitter during his term?  He threatened to personally beat up a music critic who panned his daughter's performance at a concert.  What would LBJ have tweeted?  There needs to be a little realistic viewing of the big picture here.  No, I don't condone Trump's every Tweet, but I choose the entire Trump package over the entire Biden package or the entire Hillary package.

Trump was competent as President? what?

Absolutely. 

Have you heard of the coronavirus? And how he said it would go away and did nothing to stop its spread? Have you heard about when he told people to drink bleach to prevent coronavirus? Did you see all of the massless rallies that he held?

[S019]

In your opinion, who was the best President of the last century? Which President do you believe was the most morally upright?

The most morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Herbert Hoover.

The least morally upright President of the last 100 years was probably Bill Clinton, but I could be wrong.  We know about Clinton because he lived in an era where pols didn't keep secrets.

I'm curious, why Hoover over Eisenhower or Carter?

Eisenhower is my pick for the BEST President, but he had a wartime affair.  Hoover, whatever his shortcomings, was the most strait-laced President we have had, personally.

If you read the life story of Jimmy Carter, you will find an incredibly self-serving narcissist.  He's hid it well, but he's always been all about him. Everything about him has been opportunism.  He's not the worst; in fact, he's better than most of our Presidents in this regard.  But Carter has been a manipulator of his own image his whole political life.  So, no, he doesn't get the prize here.

I don’t think you could sum up why so many of us here don’t hold your opinions in high regard when you say this about Jimmy Carter of all people while worshiping Trump. Seriously this is next level lacking in self awareness

I've never said Trump wasn't a narcissist.  I've also not said that Trump was more moral, personally, than Jimmy Carter.  But it takes a degree of narcissism and lack of self-awareness for a guy like the 1972 Jimmy Carter to look at the 1972 contenders and conclude that he was better than all of them after a year and a half as Governor of Georgia.  He wasn't a bad person, but he was, indeed, over his head.  Trump was competent as President in ways Carter couldn't even imagine, let alone replicate.  And while I won't sign off on Trump's adultery prior to coming to office, the question was about conduct in office, and Trump behaved (as President) better than Clinton, JFK, FDR, and (quite possibly) LBJ.  At least in the area of adultery.

As for Tweets, what would Harry Truman have Tweeted if there were Twitter during his term?  He threatened to personally beat up a music critic who panned his daughter's performance at a concert.  What would LBJ have tweeted?  There needs to be a little realistic viewing of the big picture here.  No, I don't condone Trump's every Tweet, but I choose the entire Trump package over the entire Biden package or the entire Hillary package.

Trump was competent as President? what?

Absolutely. 

Have you heard of the coronavirus? And how he said it would go away and did nothing to stop its spread? Have you heard about when he told people to drink bleach to prevent coronavirus? Did you see all of the massless rallies that he held?

Donald Trump, as President, facilitated the manufacture of PPE in record time.  He fostered the vaccines with his Operation Warp Speed.  He chose a balanced approach to where the vulnerable were protected while life for others went on as normally as possible.  Donald Trump resisted the most authoritarian responses to COVID-19 which I appreciate.

But if this is the tack you're taking, let's not forget that neither you, nor Hindsight, nor most of the red avatars here had a single word of criticism for BLM and Antifa taking to the streets in large numbers and close quarters for months on end (to say nothing about torching a police station in Minneapolis, a Wendy's in Atlanta, to name just two (2) incidents.  You were fine with all those BLM and Antifa crowds for months in multiple cities gathering together in large numbers, not always wearing masks, certainly not social distancing.  If you're making the argument you're making about Trump and COVID-19, I invite you to respond to this post by criticizing BLM and Antifa for gathering in large groups, not social distancing, not always wearing masks, while others were criticized for wanting to open the businesses that supported their families and represented the place where some of these people's life savings were sunk in.

You can't have it both ways.  You can't make the argument you make here and then have absolutely NO criticism for BLM and Antifa, yet be concerned about "superspreaders" in the form of church services, Sturgis, Trump rallies, etc.  If the virus is as much of a crisis as people say it is, then let's hold BLM and Antifa accountable for THEIR superspreaders.  The fact that you may find their cause somehow more noble doesn't alter science, does it? 

I won't let up on this point.  If people wish to be inconsistent, they shouldn't be surprised when they are asked to explain their inconsistency.  You do this to me freely; let's see you handle account for YOUR inconsistency on this issue.  I'll bet you can't account for it using a scientific argument, however.

there you go again, muh Antifa, anyways I didn't read your past past the first two sentences.

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Why have you compared Joe Biden to Marshall Petain of Vichy France?