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Brittain33
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« on: October 18, 2008, 10:13:09 PM »


Very interesting. Gore carried Monmouth and there was a huge 9/11 effect there--Middletown famously had a large number of losses that day.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 11:20:39 AM »

I based the FL map off 2000 so I might've overestimated a bit and'll probably revamp it. But I have a theory about FL based off the current polling which if true will give some surprising results (trying to be vague Sam Spade-style.)

Politico reports that the Florida Republican Party under Charlie Crist has broken with the McCain camp and is husbanding its money for the next election cycle. That's going to hurt the McCain ticket because they rely on institutional support in a big way in Florida.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 11:22:07 AM »

I think his point is that if the trend continues in FL, it will be about 4 points more GOP than the national average.

This will be the first election in a very long while in which Florida's economy will be substantially worse off than the country's.

A state where retirees feel like kings in their paid-off homes and anyone with a wrench can make a good living is a Republican state. That doesn't quite describe the Gulf Coast in 2008.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 11:27:48 AM »

Monmouth is changing, though. It's become even more wealthy exurban, and the downscale areas have shrunk. Obama could still win if he massively increases his margin in Middletown and the rest of the northern coast, but, since there's no serious campaign in NJ, I doubt that happens.

Ok. When I was a kid, a lot of the upscale parts of Monmouth County were populated by the Jewish diaspora from New York, much as in Middlesex County. This is a group that swung quite a bit from 2000 to 2004, with 2000 easily a high-water mark. I'm not sure how far they'll swing back in 2008, but it helps that Palin is pushing all of the same buttons that Bush did on them.

On a more general note, the Census indicates that Monmouth is growing more slowly than the state as a whole, 2000-2006. The Asian population is significantly smaller than it is in Somerset, Mercer, or Middlesex Counties. Those two facts would seem to be hard to square with the idea of its growing more affluent via exurban growth, but you know more than I do.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 11:32:47 AM »

A state where retirees feel like kings in their paid-off homes and anyone with a wrench can make a good living is a Republican state. That doesn't quite describe the Gulf Coast in 2008.

Generalize much?

All the time! Aren't I good at it?
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 08:26:30 AM »


Did you see the latest polling from SD when you constructed this? It's referenced on Daily Kos, which has its own poll coming out soon, and Obama's showing strength in the Sioux Falls area if not the southeast.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 03:46:49 PM »

Interesting.  What's his margin in Virginia?  What are his margins in Arlington and Alexandria?  I see him breaking 60% in Fairfax, and I'm reluctant to give him Loudon, Clarke, Chespeake City, Alleghany, Henrico, Buckingham, Fluvanna, Accomack, and Rappahanock.

Obama is polling 2-1 in northern Virginia per Survey USA... I think it's a given he wins Loudoun.
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