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« on: June 07, 2008, 03:20:37 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 05:39:42 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.


Do you think Israel will attack Iran to one-up Obama?

No.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 06:24:18 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 06:37:06 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 06:40:14 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

That's because you're a dangerously unprincipled reactionary.

Indeed.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 07:22:18 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.
You know if he wasn't Jewish, he would give a sh**t about Israel...

I know plenty of Jews who aren't dogmatic Liebermanistas.
Yeah but they are more of secular Jews.

Secular? He doesn't even keep kosher.
He doesn't, he seemed pretty religous to me.

I don't keep Kosher, but I am fairly religious.  I just don't keep a lot of the traditions.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 07:38:37 PM »

If anything there would be an embargo, not sanctions. Allow food and medical supplies in, keep everything else out. But of course nothing will happen at all.

I would love for there to be an emargo; it's better than war.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2008, 11:58:13 AM »

If anything there would be an embargo, not sanctions. Allow food and medical supplies in, keep everything else out. But of course nothing will happen at all.

I would love for there to be an emargo; it's better than war.

Any reason for an embargo?

Iran can't make any of the weapons it uses or parts of their nuclear program. Embargo the country except for food and medical supplies and they won't be able to get anything else or finish thier program, unless of course they already have what they need.

In that case, embargo Israel, why don't we?

I wouldn't consider the Knesset responsible enough to have the big toys.

Really?
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2008, 01:25:43 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2008, 01:27:28 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2008, 01:33:17 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2008, 01:48:23 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.

Marilyn Musgrave
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 01:58:33 PM »

They've had them for awhile now and haven't used them, what (other than a deep seated bias) makes you think that will change soon?

The comments mentioned. Look at how many radical Zionists there are int he Knesset.

Thankfully, those radical Zionists are not in charge.

No, but they're in government.

Yes, but as long as they're not in charge, they aren't as big a threat.  There are radicals in our government, too.

Name one.

Marilyn Musgrave

Not a part of the government.

She's a Congresswoman.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 03:37:22 PM »

Last I checked Likud was a mainstream party there so...

All the major parties are fairly mainstream, and there is nothing to worry about from any of them.

We have nothing to fear from Yisrael Beitenu or their allies in Likud? Or from the theocrats in Shas? Right.

No, we have nothing to fear from them.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 03:59:51 PM »

Although I'd like to avoid war with Iran, if Israel goes to war, then the US must be ready to defend our greatest ally.



Disgusting.

Formerly the biggest Democratic hack is now a Republican.

Glad to see you have found your place, just like Joe Lieberman.

Well, I do seem to be trending to the right recently.

Is there ANYTHING besides your view on Israel that makes you even remotely close to a Republican?

Overall, my foreign policy is closer to the GOP than the Democrats.  As it's been pointed out, I am a bit of a prude, and I have some social views that fit better with the GOP.
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 09:20:11 PM »

And yes, if Iran attacked Israel, it would be nuts to suggest the US not back Israel.

I think Ben was advocating going to war even if Israel is the one to launch a preemptive attack, not sure though. That's what I'd call crazy.

My thinking was that if Israel went to war with Iran, we would help them.

Of course the US should intervene if Iran attacked Israel.  If that happened, we should send enough troops to Iran to whip it in a day.
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 09:27:08 PM »

And yes, if Iran attacked Israel, it would be nuts to suggest the US not back Israel.

I think Ben was advocating going to war even if Israel is the one to launch a preemptive attack, not sure though. That's what I'd call crazy.

My thinking was that if Israel went to war with Iran, we would help them.

Of course the US should intervene if Iran attacked Israel.  If that happened, we should send enough troops to Iran to whip it in a day.

Too bad they are a little preoccupied in Iraq. Or are you advocating moving all our national guard to the middle east. Perhaps we should have a draft? That would stop this bullsh**t in a second.

No; I advocate pulling troops out of Iraq, and instead sending them to Iran.  Remember, I want to being pulling troops out of Iraq as soon as possible.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 09:14:51 PM »

Of course the US should intervene if Iran attacked Israel.  If that happened, we should send enough troops to Iran to whip it in a day.

The Empire does not have enough troops to make this happen.  Remember how the US was defeated by the Vietnamese, Ben.  America may be ruthless, brutal, and well supplied with weaponry, but brave resistance fighters can still have some success against it.


America is neither ruthless or brutal.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2008, 05:44:36 PM »

Of course the US should intervene if Iran attacked Israel.  If that happened, we should send enough troops to Iran to whip it in a day.

The Empire does not have enough troops to make this happen.  Remember how the US was defeated by the Vietnamese, Ben.  America may be ruthless, brutal, and well supplied with weaponry, but brave resistance fighters can still have some success against it.


America is neither ruthless or brutal.

America can be, and is sometimes. Don't be naive.

You're right, but we rarely are.
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