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Question: After the 12th Amendment
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1824
 
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1876
 
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1884
 
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1888
 
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1912
 
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1916
 
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« on: February 13, 2008, 08:38:50 PM »

I'm going to say 2000, but 1876 and 1960 are good contenders as well.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 10:33:19 PM »

1876 wasn't close, it was stolen.

There's a difference.

So, 2000, with 1916 in a close second.

And 2000 wasn't?
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:43:15 PM »

1876 wasn't close, it was stolen.

There's a difference.

So, 2000, with 1916 in a close second.

And 2000 wasn't?

2000 wasn't stolen - Gore lost his home state of Tennessee. If he won Tennessee, he would have won the election.

Furthermore, Dr John Lott in his book Freedomnomics, demonstrates that the early call for Florida by the news networks, despite the fact that the more conservative western portion of the state was in a different time zone and still voting, reduced turnout in those precincts and could have cost Bush as many as 7,500 votes (pp180-182).

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In other words, the 2000 election was almost stolen, but it was almost stolen by the Democrats, not the Republicans.

Sure, if you ignore the fact that the Supreme Court voted on party lines to give Bush the election.  They should have had a statewide recount.  Notice that the 5 conservatives voted to deny the rightful winner of the election his office.  It was stolen, and you Republicans know it.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 07:51:18 PM »

The lawsuit before the Supreme Court wasn't about a Statewide recount. Gore only wanted certain counties to be recounted; counties that would have potentially benefited him.

I know, that was wrong, also.  The Court should have called for a statewide recount.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 07:54:32 PM »

Sure, if you ignore the fact that the Supreme Court voted on party lines to give Bush the election.  They should have had a statewide recount.  Notice that the 5 conservatives voted to deny the rightful winner of the election his office.  It was stolen, and you Republicans know it.


It wouldn't have gone to the Supreme Court if the media hadn't inaccurately called the election for Gore, discouraging Republicans from voting in the Panhandle - that's the point Lott was making. If Republican voters had not been discouraged from voting by an inaccurate call by the media, it wouldn't have been as close and it wouldn't have ended up in the Supreme Court.

If Gore hadn't taken his home state for granted, he still would have won the election - even losing Florida. Claiming that the election was stolen only stopped the Democrats from making changes to the policy platform to make themselves more electable and instead made them sound whiney, helping to cost them the 2004 election.

I dislike the '04 platform, but the election was stolen.  Deep down in your heart, you know it was.  Bush knows it.  O'Connor and Kennedy know it.  Rehnquist died knowing it.  Everyone knows it.
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Kaine for Senate '18
benconstine
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 08:00:54 PM »

The lawsuit before the Supreme Court wasn't about a Statewide recount. Gore only wanted certain counties to be recounted; counties that would have potentially benefited him.

I know, that was wrong, also.  The Court should have called for a statewide recount.

The court can only rule on the lawsuit brought before them.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore for info on the case

I can't read anything on 2000.  It either makes me scream or cry.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 09:33:57 AM »

The moment Gore only asked for those three Democratic counties - he lost the moral war.

Sadly, that's true.
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