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Orser67
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 17, 2020, 10:39:23 AM »

The New York Times should know this, but political media often ignores these sorts of things in favor of creating narratives.

I agree with your first paragraph, but the NYTimes isn't making this point; the article itself is purely concentrated on potential differences between 2016 and 2020. OP is just using a graph in the article as evidence for their argument.
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Orser67
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2020, 10:54:35 AM »

Maybe there's a better source of data available, but according to the exit polls on Wikipedia (which are sourced to Edison Research):

U.S.:
2000: D+1 (I'm just rounding to the nearest integer...Gore won by 0.51 points)
2004: R+2
2008: D+7
2012: D+4
2016: D+2

White voters:
2000: R+13
2004: R+17
2008: R+12
2012: R+20
2016: R+21

Black voters:
2000: D+81
2004: D+77
2008: D+91
2012: D+87
2016: D+80

Asian voters:
2000: D+14
2004: D+12
2008: D+27
2012: D+47
2016: D+36

Other voters:
2000: Not listed
2004: D+14
2008: D+35
2012: D+20
2016: D+19

Latino voters:
2000: D+27
2004: D+9
2008: D+36
2012: D+44
2016: D+36

I don't see much evidence here of minorities trending into the Republican Party. I think one fairly important thing that did happen is that Democratic dominance with African Americans declined a little without the first African American presidential nominee/president on the ballot. But it's also pretty obvious that, compared to the Bush years, Democrats have made deep, long-term gains with Hispanic and Asian voters.
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Orser67
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 04:13:17 PM »

Friendly reminders that:

A: Hispanic is not a race
B: Many (most?) hispanics are white

Why wouldn't hispanics be able to assimilate?
- what we think of as “black” culture is basically Southern US Anglo culture. 

What.

Many defining features of African-American culture- AAVE speech patterns, names, soul food, overall religiosity and adherence to certain denominations of Protestant Christianity- reflect the community’s origins in the southern US. This isn’t rocket science.

In the Southern US, maybe. From Southern Anglos, abso-ing-lutely not. And pretty much any other aspect of aggregate AA culture that you left out have little or nothing to do with Southern Anglos culture.

It's not rocket science that your comment was a tone-deaf hot take.

I didn't mean "from southern whites"....... but that's my bad for using that wording. What I probably should've said was that "black" culture is both Anglo and derived from the Southern US.

Black culture is not Anglo and more of "Southern" culture has roots in African American culture than the other way around. I'll give you religious point, though black churches and white evangelical churches are very dissimilar. The speech patterns, names, cuisine, music and pretty much anything else is uniquely African/African American and any overlap with "Southern Anglos" is derivative of that.

African American culture is Southern, because the overwhelmingly vast majority of Black people in the U.S. are less than 2-3 generations removed from living in the Deep South

I would 100% agree with this statement if it was applied to the South as a whole, but I'm not sure that it applies specifically to the Deep South. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think that a decent number of African Americans are descended from people who lived in DE, MD, VA, NC, TN, KY, FL, TX, OK, and MO.
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