Schock and Awe - Can he be the face of the party?

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Hot face on the same old same old.

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He's a Larry Craig waiting to happen.

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@ the thought that this generation is always going to hate the GOP. Really, people. Get a grip.

So you're saying the Republican party will eventually change?

No, most of them will become more conservative the older they get and start paying taxes.

The historically low taxes?

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I think the "historically low" comment implied "since the tax existed," boy wonder.

What tax rates do "I want" again?

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I think the "historically low" comment implied "since the tax existed," boy wonder.

What tax rates do "I want" again?

50% or greater on the 'wealthy.'

After creating additional tax brackets.

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I think the "historically low" comment implied "since the tax existed," boy wonder.

What tax rates do "I want" again?

50% or greater on the 'wealthy.'

After creating additional tax brackets.

Oh yeah, that's so much better.

BTW: What's with the condescension.

Creating additional tax brackets makes the system more progressive than it is, which it really isn't. For some of the lower groups it makes sense but the higher it gets it's essentially just a flat tax for a large array of people, regardless.

And it's something that's rubbed off from Phil. Worry not, nothing personal.

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Do you have some sort of point here, or...?

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Yeah, taxes and spending are too high.

Look at these crippling high taxes! Look how high they are in relation to the past! It's just out of control!

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I don't think anyone should have to give the government more than a third of what they earned. Right now when you factor in sales, property, etc. in addition to a 35% income tax it's far more than that in many cases. I don't care that we've had similarly stupid tax rates thanks to you liberals, that's just robbery.

Paging Coburn, paging Coburn.

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Hope no one minds losing public transportation and the fire department.

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Because, as everyone knows, the slow and gradual trend over the years leading to now is the equivalent of radical social movements of the 60s.

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Because, as everyone knows, the slow and gradual trend over the years leading to now is the equivalent of radical social movements of the 60s.

The thing is, the radicalism of the baby boomers is vastly exaggerated. Groups like College Republicans actually had very high membership rates in the '60s, for example. We just remember the vocal minority (who, not coincidentally, are in charge of academia now) as opposed to the silent majority.

Accepting that as the truth for the sake of argument, that doesn't really do much to counter my point, assuming that was your intention.

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Because, as everyone knows, the slow and gradual trend over the years leading to now is the equivalent of radical social movements of the 60s.

The thing is, the radicalism of the baby boomers is vastly exaggerated. Groups like College Republicans actually had very high membership rates in the '60s, for example. We just remember the vocal minority (who, not coincidentally, are in charge of academia now) as opposed to the silent majority.

Accepting that as the truth for the sake of argument, that doesn't really do much to counter my point, assuming that was your intention.

It's not to counter your point. The reality is that the baby boomers as a whole were never that liberal. Actually, as far as generations go they've been fairly conservative (if idealistic). Let's not forget that the bulk of the evangelical movement, supply side economics, etc. have all been largely baby boomer-driven movements. The 1960s were the way they were not because the boomers as a whole were so much more liberal but because a combination of factors (courts, student movement, vietnam, etc.) all violently coincided together to force change.

Take it to Phil.