The Independent

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Would you endorse a plan to recruit new members off-site?  If so, how would you change the registration rules to keep from driving them away upon joining the site?
I believe that many Atlasians may still hold their nose to a member who was recruited just to play Atlasia. Until that changes, I wouldn’t actively support off-site recruitment.

That hasn't, however, stopped him from doing so himself in the past on multiple occasions.

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There seems to be a serious plague going on when it comes to this issue that renders people incapable of telling the difference between "term limits" and "consecutive term limits." No one proposed flat-out term limits. That would be insane and Atlasia couldn't sustain that. I floated the idea of consecutive term limits, to cycle more people through the Senate, a body people complain about as being stale and dominated by the same individuals but rarely actually want to do anything to change when the chips are down.

Consecutive term limits =/= Term limits. They are very different things and presenting it as a discussion on just term limits totally slants the discussion from the get-go and is incredibly misinforming.

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While I like and respect Fritz, and his Presidency, I just wanted to note for the record I've always opposed off-site recruiting. If you are so opposed to off-site recruiting, you wouldn't have done it in the past, and you would've turned Fritz down. You're clearly not so opposed, as it's benefitted you almost every time.

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While I like and respect Fritz, and his Presidency, I just wanted to note for the record I've always opposed off-site recruiting. If you are so opposed to off-site recruiting, you wouldn't have done it in the past, and you would've turned Fritz down. You're clearly not so opposed, as it's benefitted you almost every time.

I oppose off-site recruiting because members who are recruited off-site are often looked down upon, and aren't given much of a chance. If members of Atlasia as a whole began to accept off-site recruiting and had a more favorable opinion of it, I'd support it in a heart beat. This isn't about what I specifically want. It's about what I think is best for the game, and right now, I don't think off-site recruitment would be good for the game.

So you support off-site recruiting, but disagree with how those members are treated. Just say that.

The way you phrased it in your answer is the equivalent of someone saying, "Well, I oppose voting rights for women, but only because people don't think women are smart. But if everyone started liking women I would support giving them voting rights." At the end of the day, just stand up for what you think is right, rather than equivocating on your beliefs. Sure, people will disagree with you, but it's better than looking like a silly panderer.

There's no pandering being done. I think off-site recruitment could increase activity, but won't actively support it until a majority agrees, because unless people agree, those who joins won't be given a chance. 

So you oppose off-site recruiting, despite the fact that you've done so, unless the majority of the public agrees, in which case you will support it, until people change their minds, when you will oppose it again, but even when you oppose it, you'll continue to recruit from off-site, as long as the President tells you to.

Consistency!

This calls for a fun new game!

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I am not a fan of off site recruiting, mainly because it can quickly turn into an inactive votebank. You can argue similar conditions already exist within Atlasia, but those people are at least active on the forum. They at least have some purpose being here. Inviting people onto this website just to vote in Atlasia is not right.

Keep in mind that if you know someone who is truly interested in the game, and will be an active member, then by all means invite them. I just don't want a repeat of the time when that chick from the American Idol forum just showed up to vote.

Who, I'm almost 100% positive I recall correctly, Tmth recruited himself.

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Simple facts like that deserve to be stated when these are the issues that are important during a Presidential campaign, Tmth.

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Vote Tmthforu, He's Learned From His Mistakes?

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So happy to see you around these parts again Wormy.