Zombies, Parties, Elections, and Stuff

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Damn, I almost replied in time on the other thread.

Wow BK. Well said, I can only say that I feel the exact same way, and it's why I've lost a considerable amount of enthusiasm for Atlasia. (Of course, part of that is my recent family issues.) It's really sad that people are openly recruiting from other sites, and the vast majority of these people don't give a damn about anything other than voting, and are usually young and know absolutely nothing about the way the game works.

When I joined the game, I was recruited by Xahar for his purposes in strengthening the SDP, sure. But I was also a semi-established member of the forum that had been around for awhile, participated in political discussion elsewhere, and I actually read alot on the Atlasia wiki (where I picked up my love of "repairing" the wiki) before I participated more. But the point is, even though I was recruited initially to be an SDP footsoldier, I grew and participated and learned, and became what I am today with alot of accomplishments under my belt.

The contrast between my story and many others (like PS or Barnes) is stark, and undeniable.

As for "anti-zombie" legislation, I won't support anymore of it. In fact, I regret certain provisions in my constitutional amendment I pushed to pass, because I realized it doesn't prevent zombies at all. Bgwah and I chat off site a fair bit, and he occasionally send me links to potential recruits. Sadly, some of these members, though intelligent and verbose, don't have the required amount of posts. Trolls/zombies will spam, and strengthening posting requirements doesn't matter because these people don't care how they come across or how blatant their zombie-ism is because their sole purpose is to be a drone.

A perfect example is one of the more recent RPP drones who made over half the registration requirement in less than forty-five minutes. That speaks for itself, I think, and it's why zombie legislation is pointless and only hurts people who take the game more maturely instead of obsessively, ironic as that may seem.

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No one has explained to me how "zombie reform" wouldn't do more harm than good yet, which is why I'm still opposed to anymore of it. In fact, I favor repealing some of it. You can't ramp up requirements anymore without hurting normal people.

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I'm a little tired of people pointing to the JCP as hypocritical in all of this. We encourage people to vote a certain way and we recruit people, but we don't recruit from other places on the internet and we don't instruct our members to spam to get the required amount of posts before they join and vote. If someone can't join, we don't force them, and we don't recruit anywhere else.

We have alot of people that don't post in Atlasia but for the most part they're established members of the forum at large. (Lunar, BRTD, Opebo, etc) You're just being plain disengenuous if you deny the contrast between our members and how the RPP operates.

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1. Only Cindywho was recruited off forum and she's not around anymore. Will you or anyone else listen? Nope!

First of all, cindy not being around anymore doesn't make a damn bit of difference. She was recruited offsite, encouraged to spam her way to 25 posts, vote the party line, and was disposed of her usefulness once she apparently decided not to come back.

Even so, we have reason to suspect some of your members are being recruited from other political sites or games like NationStates and Bgwah and I spied a couple of your members (one came first, then the other) as members of another forum, more reason to suspect you're come from elsewhere.

Forgive me, but don't expect my intelligence to be insulted by such BS. Three whiffs of off-site recruiting would lead anyone with half a mind to suspect more is going on if only we could uncover it, and new blue-avatars being recruited immediately and ordered to spam their way to eligibility would also lead one to believe something more nefarious afoot.

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Some are, but most are pretty young and stupid, to be quite frank. One of your members posted a thread saying that if Elvis was alive, he'd be a Huckabee supporter, another supposedly flip-flops with his sexuality and compliments Vodka, despite being 14, and other members simply only spam because they have to, officepark style. Posting doesn't necessarily mean you're a serious member of Atlas, this goes for plenty of us.

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Recruiting established members the way you're supposed to is just fine, like how you recruited Fezzy. That's all well and good. When you recruit people who don't know the slightest thing about Atlas or Atlasia, and they're directed to post over 30 times in 45 minutes it's not just normal recruiting, the way the JCP does it.

(Also, come on, we got a flurry of conservative Pacificans, I'm not a moron, MJ)

And yet in the end I'll get you banned!

You stay classy now.

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Btw you bastards, my own chairman, our egotistical GM who can't admit he is f**king wrong, the activities and stupidity of some of our new members, I must say I really getting sick of this forum and the motherf**kers that inhabit it. You can all go straight to hell for all I care.

Chill out. I'm not suggesting there's a party-wide conspiracy here, I'm suggesting there are a few members of the RPP that may or may not be recruiting off-site and directing newbies (who know nothing about the site) to do their bidding. Plenty of members are examples of this and we in the JCP have a few reasons to suspect what we do. There's no need to lose your mind over it.