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« on: September 13, 2021, 08:03:00 PM »
« edited: September 13, 2021, 08:06:21 PM by Particle Man »

A lot of rich people want to be taxed. A lot of poors like not having insurance. Then there’s this bulldog at the park that likes to be humped by all the other dogs. It’s not just about you.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 08:09:06 PM »


They clearly avoid paying taxes- and while I dislike woke corporations and billionaires, I still hate the federal government more.

Do you just like regular millionaires?
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2021, 07:00:09 AM »

I personally find this cringe, but AOC does have a strangely large fan base, so whatever works for us works.

Besides, as Trump has shown, any process of her getting real power would be kind of funny. That alone would be worth it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2021, 07:03:04 AM »

By any measure, the US is already a high tax country, and most of the tax burden falls on the rich. The problem is those tax dollars are not well-spent, and government programs are utterly broken.
If we had to have them and fund them the same, how would you? And tax doesn’t matter. Public revenue  to GDP matters.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2021, 05:14:11 PM »


Then why do so many of them vote for the party that will increase their taxes.

Why do people who accuse them of having sex with babies vote to give them tax cuts?
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2021, 06:53:24 PM »

AOC says she (and other NYC elected officials) were invited.

Anyway, obviously the post was deleted in this thread but it's pretty obvious what she was doing. The irony is the point, and clearly lost on the pearl-clutchers in this thread.

I find it annoying because she wants to have it both ways. She wants to rub elbows with the rich and famous (she is one of them now, after all) but also judge them as though she's still a struggling bartender. Socialists in this country are extremely, extremely judgmental of everyone that offends their sensibilities of what is and isn't fair in this economy, but they seem to universally have no problem living it up to the fullest themselves. I don't care if rich people enjoy an expensive night out to the gala, but I'd rather they not pretend to be men and women of the people while they do it.

And please, no one give me that god-awful "you participate in society" comic thing. It's so out of touch. Anyone who thinks that going to a $30,000 night of entertainment is merely "participating in society" is about as deluded about what the average American experience is like as Donald Trump is.

It’s definitely something to make you think but where do people go if they don’t like the system and have better ideas? Maybe we should just wait for the system to weaken? I don’t want socialism (I think neoliberalism is dumb too) but I want a system where all ideas to help the most people life the best life are considered, not just those that only directly benefit those that can afford to go to this party. Not sure if we try to work with the rich and powerful and hope enough of them are able to put their ideals ahead of their excesses or wait until the system weakens to the point they can’t suppress ideas at odds with it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2021, 08:42:49 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2021, 08:56:54 PM by Triangle Man »


Then why do so many of them vote for the party that will increase their taxes.

This.

It's ironic that a lot of rich people support progressive economic policies and the poor and middle class support conservative economic policies...

https://www.ft.com/content/d3308b12-49a5-11e6-b387-64ab0a67014c

Paywall but looks racist. Even modestly affluent dads making $80-120k a year with their MBAs in the suburbs are coming around to a lot of the things that AOC talks about while Billy Joe Bob that makes 35k as an assistant manager at Kroger, didn’t go to college because he knocked up his HS sweetheart, and lives in an inland city that is slowly transforming into a large town surrounded by a collection of trailer parks is now posting memes about Wall Street deregulation and the tax on dying.

It’s not just about abortion, the gays, or  colored folk anymore. We see it on here. Life-long Republican lawyers and bankers are coming around to universal healthcare and going all in on global warming and life-long middle aged Democrats are now talking about inflation and about how people have to keep renting because of Wall Street regulation every chance they can get. Of course it all started with drinking the Kool-Aid at college or watching too many of their kids’ “woke” cartoons on the Disney channel. Perhaps it all started when someone on the assembly line convinced them to listen to all the edgelords on Clear Channel or on the Sinclair network because they were “the real deal”. But what started with just really stupid things they saw written in a bathroom stall or whatever have become genuine up and down views even though they will never directly benefit from them.

TLDR- people are starting to whole heartedly vote against their immediate interests and not just because they’ve been “wedged away”.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2021, 07:48:56 AM »


Who needs sources when you can vaguely generalize a group to just "they" without citing any specific examples?

The big question is if “they” are them.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2021, 09:22:16 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2021, 09:28:21 AM by Triangle Man »

What a bizarre thing to get so bent out of shape over.  How very Atlas.

I'm not bent out of shape over this.  She can wear what she wants.  Exposing rank posing and virtue signaling is another thing; that is Vintage Atlas and, indeed, the raison d'etre for many here.

If Sandy Cortez weren't of Hispanic heritage she'd be lambasted as just another Limousine Liberal.  She's from affluent Westchester County and she grew up in affluence.  That's fine, and it's fine that people who are given much are concerned with those who have less.  It's less fine when you're a poser, and your empathy for those less fortunate than you is selective.
Not all of Westchester County is rich. White Plains itself feels just like the Bronx. So does Flushing.

I forget what this was about because I think thought it was stupid. What if a Republican politician posed with a bunch of poor people with a dress that said "Cancel Obamacare/Social Security/Food Stamps/Section 8"?
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2021, 11:10:16 AM »

What a bizarre thing to get so bent out of shape over.  How very Atlas.

I'm not bent out of shape over this.  She can wear what she wants.  Exposing rank posing and virtue signaling is another thing; that is Vintage Atlas and, indeed, the raison d'etre for many here.

If Sandy Cortez weren't of Hispanic heritage she'd be lambasted as just another Limousine Liberal.  She's from affluent Westchester County and she grew up in affluence.  That's fine, and it's fine that people who are given much are concerned with those who have less.  It's less fine when you're a poser, and your empathy for those less fortunate than you is selective.
Not all of Westchester County is rich. White Plains itself feels just like the Bronx. So does Flushing.

I forget what this was about because I think thought it was stupid. What if a Republican politician posed with a bunch of poor people with a dress that said "Cancel Obamacare/Social Security/Food Stamps/Section 8"?

Sandy Cortez grew up in the Parkchester section of the Bronx, then moved to Yorktown Heights.  That's not the "poor" section of Westchester; it's not Mount Vernon, it's not Yonkers, and it's not Port Chester.  It's not White Plains.  She's a poser.  I'm happy to share that.  She has no more idea how poor people live than the Man in the Moon.

So it isn’t socially acceptable  support policies against the interests your opponents say you have?
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