2020 Protests megathread

[Person Man]

I refuse a dichotomy where I can’t support the protestors (the VAST majority of whom were peaceful) while condemning the destruction of my already hurting city ... life isn’t a blank check.  That is all.

They shut down a state legislative session down with guns a month ago. I guess not.

[Person Man]

Those encouraging, justifying, or excusing the violence are just as culpable. #Criminals

Because we all know you did nothing wrong.

[Person Man]

So far he's been all talk and no action, so I expect nothing to come from this. However, there is nothing wrong with him threatening to use the military to protect citizens from violence and barbarism.

There will be nothing but violence and barbarism if his legacy is a nation propped up by bullets. Those who live by the sword die by the sword!

I mean, what if he's not joking and we end up with dozens of dead, hundreds of injured, and thousands of arrested protestors?

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/patrickgiqueer/status/1267277654832615426

My heart weeps for those who aren't adapted to survive is has come. Live is getting harder. I can't imagine how hard it is for people that are this stupid.

[Person Man]

I support the protesters and all, but does anyone else find this to be actual insanity after they have been barking at anyone who’s came within 2 meters of another person for the last 3 months?

Believe science. Listen to experts.

It's an awful situation. It's a tough decision to make between your short-term an long-term welfare.

[Person Man]

Small businesses going bankrupt is an unfortunate result of the riots but one point I would make is most of these businesses that are being looted happen in be in areas that vote heavily democratic, many of these businesses are owned by people from ethnic groups that vote democratic, and many of these business owners no doubt vote for the democratic party which is the party whose mayors preside over the failure to control the riots and whose elected officials by and large are pro protest and anti police.

So to some extent these business owners brought this upon themselves by voting the way they vote, but nonetheless they should be assisted somewhat financially speaking to recover.  

I don't know whether to take this comment seriously or not? But with all due respect that's just Bullsh!t! The Democrats didn't cause covid19, they didn't kill George Floyd and the riots are being conducted by some lawless thugs.

These riots are taking place mainly in cities run by democrats, it is the failure of officials in the Democratic Party to control the riots which is obvious, I don’t see how anyone could dispute that point. Furthermore it is liberals who vote democratic, journalists etc  who have been making excuses and trying to provide cover for the riots. The people who are rioting themselves are obviously democratic supporters, demographically they are mostly young white leftists and poor African Americans, 2 groups that vote democratic.

As for the murder of George Floyd, it was a tragedy but the claim black men are targeted by police which is what protesters are claiming is nonsense. Only 23% of people shot dead by police in recent years have been black despite blacks committing 53% of all homicides and 60% of robberies in 2018. Furthermore, a police officer is 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black man than an unarmed black man is by the police.  

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883

The whole idea the police kill black men at higher rates relative to the crime they commit is nonsense, if anything the police kill fewer blacks relative to the amount of crime they are committing relative to other races.

Everyone: racism is a problem.
Racists: No it isn't. *jingles keys*

[Person Man]

I support the protesters and all, but does anyone else find this to be actual insanity after they have been barking at anyone who’s came within 2 meters of another person for the last 3 months?

Believe science. Listen to experts.

It's an awful situation. It's a tough decision to make between your short-term an long-term welfare.

I agree.

People should play a conversation in their head with a black person (or if you are a masochist, a white liberal) where you tell them not to protest because of COVID concerns. It's very difficult, mostly because it's hard not to give the impression that you don't think of police violence as a serious issue.

Now, state/local governments and public health experts are supposed to have these difficult conversations. It's a necessary part of their duty and their public authority. But, this sort of leadership is made much harder for them by the fact that they represent bodies earning low trust from black audiences. Public health experts have very few black people among their ranks and science in general is a field with a tragic history of upholding racism. State and local governments have a myriad of reasons for having low trust within the black community, including obviously having deep ties with police forces.

I wouldn't be surprised if part of the calculus here was that elevating COVID above the protests was an effort to prevent any black trust in these institutions from fully collapsing.

You know you are borrowed time when you have to balance out threats like this.

[Person Man]

Trump screwed up.  He had an obligation to address the nation in a timely manner and look like a true leader like Richard Nixon or H.W. Bush.  He tweeted while Rome burned and after 5-6 days had a photo-op (reportedly at the behest of Ivanka, which wouldn't be surprising).  The speech itself was not bad, but he should have offered the governors the option of the national guard rather than try to supersede their authority and force it on them, and he also didn't spend enough time condemning Chauvin and didn't condemn him vigorously enough.  A recorded address (Reagan style) after the second night would have looked much more professional.

Of course it's a mistake to focus 100% on tangerine man and ignore the awful state and local leaders, particularly in Minnesota.  DeBlasio again reaffirming his position as America's worst mayor.

I've been a supporter of criminal justice reform for several years, but when protests are no longer protests and turn into riots and violent mobs, the state has an obligation to it's constituents to keep the peace, and that may require force as far as riots are concerned, unfortunately.  If the state fails to uphold it's obligation, then it loses it's legitimacy.  Sometimes you need a Mike Bloomberg or a Richard Nixon.

Police reform has to happen, cops need to be held to higher standards than civilians and need serious repercussions for harming people including termination of employment and pension, and ending qualified immunity. Some cops are bastards, actually, even if 95% percent aren't.  And business owners should guard their lives and livelihoods with lethal force.

I wouldn't kill people over a business, but I would definitely try to kill someone who tried to kill me. My hope is that with reformed security forces, a lot of the leniency to other protests will be reexamined as well.

[Person Man]

Martin Luther King famously said, "I would hope that we can avoid riots because riots are self-defeating and socially destructive.”

Whose riots? I don't know what you are talking about.

[Person Man]

Martin Luther King famously said, "I would hope that we can avoid riots because riots are self-defeating and socially destructive.”

Whose riots? I don't know what you are talking about.

I don't whether you're trolling or not?
Maybe you should watch a couple of clips/pics from West philly, manhattan midtown, St Louis, etc
In St Louis a retired African American police captain was killed while trying to protect a property being looted.

https://twitter.com/rachelolding/status/1267663717082238976?s=19

At this point, for all we know is that its an inside job. Am I doing this right?

[Person Man]

Martin Luther King famously said, "I would hope that we can avoid riots because riots are self-defeating and socially destructive.”

Whose riots? I don't know what you are talking about.

I don't whether you're trolling or not?
Maybe you should watch a couple of clips/pics from West philly, manhattan midtown, St Louis, etc
In St Louis a retired African American police captain was killed while trying to protect a property being looted.

https://twitter.com/rachelolding/status/1267663717082238976?s=19

At this point, for all we know is that its an inside job. Am I doing this right?

Or maybe you just have some bad apples on your side?

Which side? The anti-racists?
That's never mattered before. We honestly don't know who did this.
On the other hand...
https://www.scarymommy.com/cops-destroy-medic-tent-asheville/

[Person Man]

Martin Luther King famously said, "I would hope that we can avoid riots because riots are self-defeating and socially destructive.”

Whose riots? I don't know what you are talking about.

I don't whether you're trolling or not?
Maybe you should watch a couple of clips/pics from West philly, manhattan midtown, St Louis, etc
In St Louis a retired African American police captain was killed while trying to protect a property being looted.

https://twitter.com/rachelolding/status/1267663717082238976?s=19

At this point, for all we know is that its an inside job. Am I doing this right?

Or maybe you just have some bad apples on your side

That's never mattered before. We honestly don't know who did this.

Then why not assume the obvious? You’re grasping pretty far to make some vague excuse about Nazis when it’s pretty clear who is doing what.

Not really.

And some, of course, are smarter than others.
https://dc101.iheart.com/content/2020-06-03-agitator-plants-flash-bomb-but-protesters-throw-it-back-in-his-car/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR3Ca6_uaq-q2Q1NM0ns5C756w1V7pAOKgt3-aDfnnm5_GnTnTirqwhlfGM

[Person Man]

Huge Black Lives Matter protest in Vienna right now.

More than 10.000 people (who are 99% white).







Even police cars say „Black Lives Matter“:



https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/wien/Mehr-als-10-000-bei-BlackLivesMatter-Kundgebung-in-Wien/432474290

More pictures and videos from the huge Vienna Black Lives Matter protest:

https://twitter.com/gerhardpaleczny/status/1268589794252271617
https://twitter.com/serbinnen/status/1268592583086833669
https://twitter.com/elinemuijres/status/1268588410530340864
https://twitter.com/j_x_carter/status/1268585038888738817
https://twitter.com/julia_seidl/status/1268578207214850048
https://twitter.com/j_x_carter/status/1268585049735168001

It appears that this time is different.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/balleralert/status/1268710024605577216

 Unhinged person calls young people brainwashed for putting up signs against police brutality. Then rambles nonsense about George Soros and ANTIFA staging all this, while striking one of the girls.

 They supposedly tracked her down already and Greenwood Has Been Arrested Multiple Times Including For Battery Against a Peace Officer. Amazing.

Sounds like Florida Woman

[Person Man]

The Australian protests were held today.

1. It was mostly suburban white people on an Instagram crusade who would avoid Aboriginal people under any other circumstances.
2. What about African Australians? They got left out by the media.

This is just a media narrative.

I dont think the Aboriginal crime rate would sustain any reasonable analysis that would show anything other than the fact that the crime rate attributable to Australian Aboriginals is proportionally much higher than their population base.

The crime rate is out of control in outback towns. Most of it is not reported. Massive levels of alcoholism, chemical dependency, sexual and physical assaults. You have children under 12 with STD's in remote populations.

The protests might be legit in the US, i cannot say, but blaming non-whites in Australia about the same issue is barking up the wrong tree.

It's because of COVID-19 restrictions and a movement on Instagram that everyone now wants to join in and make similar protests in countries without the same issues.

The media will never show the truth about everyday life in Australia like what we really see from the drunk Aboriginal population.

https://youtu.be/ZEMiUEtpWd4

https://youtu.be/h_oK_bgs164

https://youtu.be/ymqw2czq6X0

That guy is just randomly singling out Asian people for abuse and physically assaults two Asian men on a bus because they are simply Asian.

He leaves the Indian guy alone, but goes hard against the Asian people.

You wont see that ever played on the nightly news.

Point 2 really makes you look stupid. I don't know why you have to link videos about indigenous people being drunk and the media doesn't report on that like they don't report on that for every single group.

Some major level racism there, dude. If only we knew the plight of what goodly anglo-australian like you put up with it from those drunken Blackie's.

 I mean, racism has its degrees but yours is just ( chef's kiss).

He probably makes a mean barbecue