Minneapolis cops slowly murder handcuffed man in front of crowd

[Person Man]

Minnesota should consider doing a Camden on Minneapolis. Namely, by breaking up their police force and rebuilding from the ground up.

A lot of these vital institutions that have been infiltrated by radicals are in serious need of being rebuilt.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

If this is the new narrative that we're going with -- that Floyd was "intoxicated" on Fentanyl, then he would not have been nearly as coordinated or coherent as he appears in the various videos taken pre-arrest.  From my experiences, people who have overdosed on Fentanyl appear to be severely drunk (depending on the dosage).  

None of this matters anyway.  Let's say that Floyd was high-as-a-kite, his cardiovascular health was in dire straits and he was minutes away from an unrelated infarction.  Chauvin's actions still directly contributed to his death.  

What do you mean by the part that I have bolded? The store clerk who made the 911 Call said that Floyd looked drunk or something. That there wasn't something right with him. That Floyd was sitting in his car. It appears to be that it was 7 minutes between the 911 Call and the time the first officers arrived.

He was handcuffed and arrested at that time, he appears to have his knees buckled at that time. The formal arrest appears to be while Floyd was sitting/sprawling on the ground.

The store clerk thought that Floyd was drunk or something. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, the store clerk would not have been able to run down the street and yell at him and get the license plate, because Floyd would have driven off. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, he would not have been sitting in the car 7 minutes later when the police arrived.

Imagine that a drunk is beating the c__p out of his wife. Do you send a doctor, nurse, EMT, marriage counselor, or a police officer?

I was going off of the videos I'd seen just prior to his arrest.  I admittedly didn't read the full 911 transcript.

My point still stands, though: Floyd potentially being intoxicated does not absolve the officer(s) in this case.  I'm not sure if that's the angle you're going for, jimrtex, but he was handcuffed on the ground with a fully-grown man putting his weight on his neck for almost nine minutes.  That's inexcusable, point blank.  

He was not using his full weight. Most of his weight was on his other foot.

Nobody said that restraining Mr. Floyd (in itself) was wrong.  
 
"Not using his full weight" is not relevant here.  From what I remember in the forensics classes that I took (my original path through undergrad), it only takes about five to ten pounds of pressure to occlude the carotid arteries.  It takes about thirty to thirty-five pounds of pressure to occlude the airway.  

Let's assume that Chauvin weighs 160-180 lbs.  Even if he's not placing all of his weight on one knee, a significant portion of his body weight is being applied to Floyd's carotid and airway.  

This may have been a different story if Chauvin held Floyd down for fifteen-to-thirty seconds (although even this can be dangerous).  But Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck for almost ten minutes.  Restraining him until he relaxes is fine.  But you don't mess around with the vital arteries and airway. 

Sources:

https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/forensicsasphyxia.html  

https://www.umc.edu/som/Departments%20and%20Offices/SOM%20Departments/Pediatrics/Divisions/Forensic-Medicine/files/investigating_asphyxial_deaths.pdf

Strangling someone for 10 minutes is akin to stoning someone even after they are buried in the rocks that you have thrown.

[Person Man]

That doesn’t justify pretty blatant homicide. I mean, Floyd was already disabled as a threat minutes before he started begging for air. When Mr Floyd desperately gasped out in pleas to get a bit of air, that should have been pretty damn obvious for the officer, even with the context. A lot of police allegations are exaggerated/miss context. This one doesn’t and is pretty obviously murder on the officer’s part.

According to the indictment, Floyd had said that he could not breathe several times while standing up.

...We have video evidence of everything, I don’t know who you are trying to fool here.

"While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe."

The state authorities have the body cam videos/audios. They prepared the indictment. It is not likely that they would make it up.

I won't know who "we" is in your statement. Do you work for the Minnesota or Minneapolis authorities or FBI?

I think that what forumlurker was trying to say is that Floyd saying he can't breathe while standing up is irrelevant to the fact that he was suffocated by a knee while on the ground.

Why is it irrelevant?

Floyd said that he couldn't breathe while standing up and when he was constrained on the ground. It is not unreasonable to believe that his position did not have an effect on his breathing.

Yep. True to form Jim Texas is about to go full-on JJ and embarrass himself repeatedly.

Dude, quit while you're behind and go back to the redistricting thread.

Wow. Now talking to that guy was like playing chess with pigeon.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/1268986246338134016?s=19

Seriously! They're not even people!