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« on: November 08, 2013, 09:39:28 AM »

Option 3. Though if Roe were overruled (or even where Roe is not explicitly overruled but was relaxed to the point where states could effective end the practice without the clinics there being bankroled by some Hollywood kingpin) AND states that had like at least a third of the US population outlawed it (or made it impossible to get) and then their deputies and cops started trying to restrict travel and breaking into people houses and doing other blatantly illegal things to stop it and started to get away with it   OR if states with any majority of the US population just outright made it at least serious misdemeanor  then yes. There would be a "War on Abortion"
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 01:42:19 PM »

     The equivalence is problematic because the illegality of drugs spurs people to try harder to get them due to the taboo factor. I doubt it being forbidden would make people want abortions more.

Is there any evidence that prohibition increases demand for recreational drugs? I frequently hear this argument, but no one seems able to show that this is the case.

Well, it doesn't seem to REDUCE demand.

Though, it would be interesting whether there were ever was a War on Abortion. When it was illegal, Was there much of a demand for them in the first place? Were the police able to stop/prevent most of them? Was there aggressive public policies against them? (PR campaigns, public crack downs, mandatory minimums, specific civilian and paramilitary/police task forces that targeted abortion),  and if there were "bad guys", was there a "pussy mob"?

Basically, was abortion in 1953 like drugs in 2003?
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 11:52:42 AM »

My point wasn't that illegalizing abortion will make people want it more. It was that it will have virtually no effect on people wanting it. They will simply try to get one in underhanded, illegal ways.

Illegal abortion is what gives you Kermit Gosnell. He had a captive market - girls coming to him from Virginia, North Carolina, other states because there was nowhere else that would perform the procedure. So the fact that he was treating them like pieces of meat in a slaughterhouse wasn't something they could do anything about. Instead of having a variety of abortion providers competing with one another for patients and having an incentive to provide clean, safe facilities and treatment, you had a monopolist "bootlegger" in the form of Dr. Gosnell.

That fits into my question- If Abortions were made illegal in all or most circumstances in 5 years, would there be Breaking Bad or Scarface situation about 5 years after that?
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