Trump commutes Roger Stone sentence

[R.P. McM]

Remember when you guys were celebrating the fact that he’d die in prison? Who’s laughing now?

Sadistic, authoritarian animals, I would have to presume. Because no one with genuine respect for the rule of law would celebrate the corruption of justice for partisan/tribalist ends.

[R.P. McM]

Remember when you guys were celebrating the fact that he’d die in prison? Who’s laughing now?

Sadistic, authoritarian animals, I would have to presume. Because no one with genuine respect for the rule of law would celebrate the corruption of justice for partisan/tribalist ends.

Republicans have no respect for the rule of law. They think the law shouldn’t apply to them.

Oh, absolutely. Ideally, questions of morality/jurisprudence should be settled by the what? — i.e., situations should be evaluated as abstractly as possible, under a 'veil of ignorance.' To the vast majority of Republicans, however, the decisive consideration appears to be the who? — i.e., does this action/outcome benefit my tribe/myself?

[R.P. McM]

I hope he gets defeated in a landslide and then goes right to prison. And Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo (indictments under state law) should not grant a pardon. This guy has gotten away with everything his whole life. At some point, it's enough.

I wish, but the chances of a former President going to the slammer are thin, and despite all the hype now, he'll be left alone. Democrats would be too busy to afford distraction, for given how the short memory of American electorate, they wouldn't want to make Trump into a "victim" and appear vengeful.

What would the GOP do? Because, increasingly, our politics reflects the disposition of the GOP. A majority of the electorate currently leans Democratic, but Republicans have managed to harden their base through rabid, unhinged propaganda. I'm not suggesting that Democrats do likewise, but there should be an effort to isolate and demonize the GOP (justifiably). Allying with Trump and his party should present very real social costs to any ambitious individual who chooses to do so. Ignoring or forgiving the illegal/disgraceful conduct of Republican administrations hasn't worked since Nixon, Reagan, H.W. Bush, or George W. So it's time to bring down the hammer.

[R.P. McM]

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I'm fine with commutation of this sentence.  Stone deserves a new trial due to bias issues with the jury foreperson, but one isn't forthcoming due to the bias of an activist Obama appointee. *snip*

With all due respect, the quoted part of your post is "1+1= Eleventy-Twix" level absurd.  I mean, it simply has no objective basis in reality.  I'm sorry, but there is no way that any reasonable person could honestly believe the quoted part of your post unless they had been so blinded by partisanship that they were no longer capable of reacting to current events with any semblance of objectivity.  

The rule of law matters more than partisan loyalty, no matter who is in charge.  I know there was a time when you still knew this on some level because you opposed Kavanaugh's confirmation and I don't know what happened, but I really hope you put down the kool-aid because it has been really sad to watch.

You ask what's happened to me.

There are three (3) types of Atlas Left.  One is the deranged sort; runeghost, is the classic example, but there are others in his league.  (AtorBoltox comes to mind.)  They are unreachable, and they are the sort of people that give me the creeps in real life.  (Chancellor Gowron falls into this group; his hatred of Trump goes way beyond politics.)

The second (and larger type) are the Broken Record Technique Left.  Badger.  Harry.  Joe Republic.  Frodo (who has lied about me on this forum and refuses to acknowledge it).  Dr. Scholl.  The whole lot of Hyena Packers.  They repeat lies over and over again to where they become axioms.  You know this; you've SEEN this.  Between this group, and the group above, I don't expect anything more.

Then we come to the group that has actually disappointed me. It's the group of reasonable liberals who don't reflexively hate America who are needed to be the last bastion of common sense in America today that aren't showing up for that role because they can't get past their personal hatred for Trump.

As a member of the latter group, let me unequivocally affirm that nothing is more dear to me than the preservation of democracy and the rule of law. And Trump is, without question, the greatest threat to said principles in my lifetime. So your point is nonsensical — my personal distaste for Trump is a direct consequence of his appalling, authoritarian, treasonous behavior.

You're free to question my ideological bonafides, but let me assure you, I've never voted for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. What you're failing to come to terms with is the degree to which Trump's disgraceful conduct has radicalized center-left Democrats, myself included. There seems to be this pipe dream on the right that everyone will forget about the Trump administration, and the GOP will successfully shirk responsibility. I'm afraid not.