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Question: Who will become the Union's chancellor candidate? (Will he also be elected the new chancellor?)
#1
Armin Laschet (yes)
#2
Armin Laschet (no)
#3
Jens Spahn (yes)
#4
Jens Spahn (no)
#5
another CDU politician (yes)
#6
another CDU politician (no)
#7
Markus Söder (yes)
#8
Markus Söder (no)
#9
another CSU politician (yes)
#10
another CSU politician (no)
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urutzizu
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« on: April 05, 2021, 04:52:05 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2BS0RM?il=0

Laschet does the inevitable U-turn today and now calls for a hard lockdown, or as he terms it "Bridge-Lockdown" (the Idea is like, well, a bridge until enough people are Vaccinated, trying to invoke a more positive sense of a safe shore on the other side so to speak - instead of the tunnel metaphors that German Politicians have used previously where the light at the end too often has turned out to be a train)

Zero political instinct, zero strategy, this man. Has has managed to take every single stance under the sun on this Issue and somehow always too late, been forced to u-turn every single time, and has now crossed the point where everyone, including those who agree with him on his newfound strategy are now beating him up no matter what he does.

Whilst I don't believe that a word Söder says is in remotely good faith - and he has, on a pure, empirical basis presided over some of the worst infections and deaths in Germany, much worse than NRW - in terms of Strategy he has relegated Laschet to a flag in his whirlwind. At this stage Laschet should have just stuck to April 2020 Armin which is clearly what he liked most. He only had to wait until the minority fed up with all confinement measures is large enough, which is now, ride that ca. 30% which gets larger in the business associations, get the Welt/Bild people on side and he would be home dry by now. Instead he got everybody to hate him.
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urutzizu
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2021, 02:23:55 PM »

According to ZDF Heute (evening news) Merkel gave Laschet "indirect backing" at the todays meeting of the board of the CDU/CSU parliamentary group with Laschet and Söder, but they don't elaborate further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRtgThKLy3U (timestamp: 2:10)

n-tv reports this, which is what I assume they mean:

"[Merkel emphasized that] North Rhine-Westphalia deviated only minimally from the federal-state agreements, if at all. Others went further.

"Bavaria has now deviated even more significantly," Merkel said, according to the participants. Markus Söder will defend this by saying that it is due to court judgments. Unfortunately, the public had the impression that NRW Prime Minister Armin Laschet had deviated more strongly. She herself criticized the states of Berlin and North Rhine-Westphalia in a talk show. Other states had adhered to the agreements less."

https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Merkel-zaehlt-Bayern-wegen-Notbremse-an-article22482836.html

The Backstory is that Bravaria quietly eased the Notbremse in a similar way that NRW did, but bizarrely it got practically no media attention, while Laschet got dragged left, right and center for it, including from Söder himself. Actually Bravaria's easing goes even further than NRW's because it allows a 48 Hour old test unlike NRW's 24 Hour rule. Söders defense for this is that he was forced to by a recent court judgement, but looking at the judgment in question that seems rather iffy if you ask me. Seems more like another example of "do as I say and not as I do" (more info)
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urutzizu
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2021, 04:51:42 AM »

Breaking: dpa reports that CDU presidium has backed Laschet

"A large majority of the CDU presidium supports a candidacy for chancellor by party leader Armin Laschet. This is confirmed by the Hessian Prime Minister Volker Bouffier after a meeting of the Presidium in Berlin."

Not entirely unexpected, but the fact that it came so early and decisively is good for Laschet. Söder indicated that he wanted to be asked by the CDU and not press-gang them into giving it to him. Everything could go quite fast now. CSU presidium will be this evening. It isnt over for Söder, but does shift the balance to Laschet in my view.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2021, 06:46:15 PM »



No result tonight. Seems like we are going for a vote by the Fraction (perhaps tuesday). And the Clock just ticks down on Laschet, barring some major development that needs to come fast. Don't see any way he can hang on if it goes anywhere near the 2-1 margin that appear to be the case. Some in the Laschet camp actually now seem to want to go for a OMOV (to buy time).
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2021, 02:57:01 PM »

Here we go: According to Bild live, Laschet backs down and accepts that Kreisvorsitzendenkonferenz (district chairperson conference) is necessary (but still wants a decision in the Vorstand first).

People (including myself) have consistently underestimated Söder. Devious, evil guy, but he has been one step ahead of his opponents at every turn. Anyone thinking he just accepts the Bundesvorstand as the arbiter of his fate without engineering it to break Laschet has, I am afraid, perhaps yet again underestimated him.
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