Senseless Gun Deaths thread.

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

Tell me how stricter gun laws will stopped "gun violence". They won't.

Republicans always talk about this philisophically and hypothetically, which is very unnecessary when there is MOUNTAINS of data and evidence from Canada Australia Europe et cetera ad infinitum to show what works and what doesn't.

After the 1996 buyback (The hilarious program where taxes were increased to finance the government forcefully exchanging firearms for cash) our homicide rate didn't decrease until the mid 2000s, and our gun laws didn't prevent 15 year old acquiring a handgun and shooting up a police station killing a police officer and a man from holding a cafe hostage with a shotgun and killing two people within a years distance of each other in metropolitan Sydney, to name two recent cases.

Also, whenever you, another private citizen or any US politician use the "muh Australia" talking point you're essentially revealing the end goal of gun control which isn't simply mild reforms like "background checks" or "ending the gun show loophole" but to make firearms almost impossible for regular citizens to own. In other words, to effectively cripple the 2nd amendment.

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

... But it did decrease, yes?  I'd call that a success.

Not until almost a decade after the buyback, from 1996 to the mid 2000s the homicide rate was either stagnant or even increased. That isn't indicative of the buyback lowering homicide rates.

Two shootings killing three people... in a year??!  What we Americans wouldn't give for stats like those!!  You guys are living the dream down there.

Our crime rates across the board (firearm related and non-firearm related) were and are significantly lower compared to the US. Shootings weren't common here prior to 1996 either, Port Arthur was just an anomalously successful one and the Howard government capitalised on the outrage to further usher in a nanny state.

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

... But it did decrease, yes?  I'd call that a success.

Not until almost a decade after the buyback, from 1996 to the mid 2000s the homicide rate was either stagnant or even increased. That isn't indicative of the buyback lowering homicide rates.

Two shootings killing three people... in a year??!  What we Americans wouldn't give for stats like those!!  You guys are living the dream down there.

Our crime rates across the board (firearm related and non-firearm related) were and are significantly lower compared to the US. Shootings weren't common here prior to 1996 either, Port Arthur was just an anomalously successful one and the Howard government capitalised on the outrage to further usher in a nanny state.

So in conclusion, your country’s gun control measures were overall successful; but certainly not overnight*.  (*Nobody would ever expect it to be, anyway.)  There is no pervasive gun culture to speak of.  As a consequence of both, your rates of gun violence are admirably minuscule.

The US has so much to learn from Australia!

I'm saying the drop in homicide rates a decade later is completely unrelated you fool. If the buyback was responsible you would of seen a gradual drop in the late 90s, and that didn't happen at all.